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Musk essentially got upset that everyone on twitter didn't love him, so he bought the toy and broke it so others couldn't play with it. His changes to the site

Musk essentially got upset that everyone on twitter didn't love him, so he bought the toy and broke it so others couldn't play with it. His changes to the site were optimized for maximum praise for himself. He destroyed the verification system that was intended to avoid public figures from being impersonated. Now it's simply people who have bad posts, now getting more attention to their bad posts. Hateful individuals can now pay 8 dollars to prioritize their hateful posts under their targets' tweets. Terrible, awful, spoiled little man.

jamal-kumar 3y ago
I think everyone is looking forward to Mark absolutely pulverizing him. Even friends I talk to who don't even care about or are involved in tech want to see this happen. Weird thing to challenge a guy who's been training way hard for a few years now to an actual fight.
- sublinear 3y ago
  > Weird thing to challenge a guy who's been training way hard for a few years now to an actual fight. Musk has a substantial physical advantage over Zuckerberg that training can't overcome. If they were professional fighters they wouldn't even be in the same class.
  - ryanwaggoner 3y ago
    Yes, if they were both professionals, but they aren’t, so training can absolutely overcome the differences between them. Or do you really think no one has ever beaten a less skilled fighter who weighed 35 pounds more?
  - throw47474777j 3y ago
    > that training can't overcome. This can't be a serious claim.
  - MSFT_Edging 3y ago
    Only so much a physical size can do when you basically sit around all day retweeting memes. I've seen enough street fight videos to know a small guy with training can easily take down a big guy with hubris.
  - jfghi 3y ago
    And enough time to get some training in although cardio is slow to develop
  - gloryjulio 3y ago
    What advantage? Do you mean fat?
  - syntheweave 3y ago
    Once a fight goes to the ground, as it often does in MMA, it's much more technical in nature and someone who has put in a few years of effort into grappling techniques can trounce larger opponents by doing things that they simply aren't prepared to understand. The muscle memory and observation to understand what the situation is and how to move through it takes persistence over time to develop. So my guess for this matchup is strongly weighted towards a more prepared Zuck being patient, finding openings for a takedown and then winning by submission. That said, it isn't a jiujitsu match, and there won't be gis, which shifts around the techniques available. Elon has a chance if his claim of having studied some martial arts as a teen is true, but he is also a big liar and equally likely to cancel at the last minute.
    - mcv 3y ago
      I thought the fight has already been called off by Musk's mom. Is it still on? Personally I don't see what chance Musk has. He looks terribly out of shape, Zuck is younger and much fitter. And apparently he's actively training, rather than possibly decades ago.
      - JohnFen 3y ago
        > I thought the fight has already been called off by Musk's mom. This never happened. His parents objected to the fight taking place, but the plans haven't changed any. They've booked the venue and everything.
  - solumunus 3y ago
    You’ve obviously never been a competitive fighter. You can overcome large weight gaps against someone completely untrained, quite easily. I’m not saying Zuck can, but someone who’s talented and been training 5-10 years in BJJ, kick-boxing, MMA, etc can wreck people much bigger than them.
    - MrMan 3y ago
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  - pfannkuchen 3y ago
    Doesn’t age work against Musk pretty substantially?
    - JohnFen 3y ago
      Not age, but his physical condition sure does. He's not exactly in good shape.
      - pfannkuchen 3y ago
        Really? I don’t know much about fighting, but my impression was that being 52 is a big handicap when competing athletically against a 39 year old in general. Is this not accurate? Curious!
        JohnFen 3y ago
        I don't know about fighting in particular[1], but in sports, there is a detrimental effect related to age. But it's relatively slight and can be overcome through training. Generally, older people are more likely to be out of shape because they're more likely to be sedentary. And, of course, if they had a lifetime of bad habits like smoking or drinking, the cumulative effects can be significant. There's another age-related sports thing -- people who are in professional sports tend to beat up their bodies quite a bit. They age out of their sport, not really directly because of the passing of time as much as because eventually the cumulative damage catches up to them. [1] That said, I know a couple of people in their mid-60s who could kick the crap out of the majority of 20somethings.
- JohnFen 3y ago
  This whole fight thing is childish and ridiculous, and makes both of them look bad. That's why I'm enjoying the whole idea.
  - asddubs 3y ago
    IMHO, doing anything other than not giving a shit is just giving them undue attention and further canonizing these billionaires.
    - jamal-kumar 3y ago
      Really? Even if everyone is just secretly wishing one of them gets hit in the head hard enough that they become the next Howard Hughes?
    - JohnFen 3y ago
      That's an excellent point, and big picture, I don't actually care. But the siren call of schadenfreude is hard to resist sometimes.
    - TheNewsIsHere 3y ago
      I spiritually agree with you. At the same time, it is amusing and reassuring to see just how dumb these fools truly are, so blatantly on public display. Others will of course see a blueprint.
- rewmie 3y ago
  BBC said it: > "Mr Musk has a history of making statements that are not serious or which fail to happen." https://www.bbc.com/news/business-65981876 https://www.bbc.com/news/business-65981876

jamal-kumar 3y ago

I think everyone is looking forward to Mark absolutely pulverizing him. Even friends I talk to who don't even care about or are involved in tech want to see this happen. Weird thing to challenge a guy who's been training way hard for a few years now to an actual fight.

sublinear 3y ago
> Weird thing to challenge a guy who's been training way hard for a few years now to an actual fight. Musk has a substantial physical advantage over Zuckerberg that training can't overcome. If they were professional fighters they wouldn't even be in the same class.
- ryanwaggoner 3y ago
  Yes, if they were both professionals, but they aren’t, so training can absolutely overcome the differences between them. Or do you really think no one has ever beaten a less skilled fighter who weighed 35 pounds more?
- throw47474777j 3y ago
  > that training can't overcome. This can't be a serious claim.
- MSFT_Edging 3y ago
  Only so much a physical size can do when you basically sit around all day retweeting memes. I've seen enough street fight videos to know a small guy with training can easily take down a big guy with hubris.
- jfghi 3y ago
  And enough time to get some training in although cardio is slow to develop
- gloryjulio 3y ago
  What advantage? Do you mean fat?
- syntheweave 3y ago
  Once a fight goes to the ground, as it often does in MMA, it's much more technical in nature and someone who has put in a few years of effort into grappling techniques can trounce larger opponents by doing things that they simply aren't prepared to understand. The muscle memory and observation to understand what the situation is and how to move through it takes persistence over time to develop. So my guess for this matchup is strongly weighted towards a more prepared Zuck being patient, finding openings for a takedown and then winning by submission. That said, it isn't a jiujitsu match, and there won't be gis, which shifts around the techniques available. Elon has a chance if his claim of having studied some martial arts as a teen is true, but he is also a big liar and equally likely to cancel at the last minute.
  - mcv 3y ago
    I thought the fight has already been called off by Musk's mom. Is it still on? Personally I don't see what chance Musk has. He looks terribly out of shape, Zuck is younger and much fitter. And apparently he's actively training, rather than possibly decades ago.
    - JohnFen 3y ago
      > I thought the fight has already been called off by Musk's mom. This never happened. His parents objected to the fight taking place, but the plans haven't changed any. They've booked the venue and everything.
- solumunus 3y ago
  You’ve obviously never been a competitive fighter. You can overcome large weight gaps against someone completely untrained, quite easily. I’m not saying Zuck can, but someone who’s talented and been training 5-10 years in BJJ, kick-boxing, MMA, etc can wreck people much bigger than them.
  - MrMan 3y ago
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- pfannkuchen 3y ago
  Doesn’t age work against Musk pretty substantially?
  - JohnFen 3y ago
    Not age, but his physical condition sure does. He's not exactly in good shape.
    - pfannkuchen 3y ago
      Really? I don’t know much about fighting, but my impression was that being 52 is a big handicap when competing athletically against a 39 year old in general. Is this not accurate? Curious!
      - JohnFen 3y ago
        I don't know about fighting in particular[1], but in sports, there is a detrimental effect related to age. But it's relatively slight and can be overcome through training. Generally, older people are more likely to be out of shape because they're more likely to be sedentary. And, of course, if they had a lifetime of bad habits like smoking or drinking, the cumulative effects can be significant. There's another age-related sports thing -- people who are in professional sports tend to beat up their bodies quite a bit. They age out of their sport, not really directly because of the passing of time as much as because eventually the cumulative damage catches up to them. [1] That said, I know a couple of people in their mid-60s who could kick the crap out of the majority of 20somethings.
JohnFen 3y ago
This whole fight thing is childish and ridiculous, and makes both of them look bad. That's why I'm enjoying the whole idea.
- asddubs 3y ago
  IMHO, doing anything other than not giving a shit is just giving them undue attention and further canonizing these billionaires.
  - jamal-kumar 3y ago
    Really? Even if everyone is just secretly wishing one of them gets hit in the head hard enough that they become the next Howard Hughes?
  - JohnFen 3y ago
    That's an excellent point, and big picture, I don't actually care. But the siren call of schadenfreude is hard to resist sometimes.
  - TheNewsIsHere 3y ago
    I spiritually agree with you. At the same time, it is amusing and reassuring to see just how dumb these fools truly are, so blatantly on public display. Others will of course see a blueprint.
rewmie 3y ago
BBC said it: > "Mr Musk has a history of making statements that are not serious or which fail to happen." https://www.bbc.com/news/business-65981876 https://www.bbc.com/news/business-65981876