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I still use xev regularly and xkill pretty much everyday? Along with xclip (everyday too), xdotool (for automation workflows)... glxgears very often too to chec

I still use xev regularly and xkill pretty much everyday? Along with xclip (everyday too), xdotool (for automation workflows)... glxgears very often too to check if for some reason the GPU driver bailed out

bzzzt 3y ago
It's 2023 and there are stable graphical operating systems that don't make you check 'if the GPU driver bailed out' every 15 minutes...
- Krssst 3y ago
  Do they also not include telemetry or forcefully installed software you never asked for but cannot remove anyway and will remind you of their existence ar every opportunity?
  - dgfitz 3y ago
    Yes.
  - deleted 3y ago
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- failuser 3y ago
  It’s more of the driver’s fault, right? BTE, Windows has a Ctrl+Shift+Win+B shortcut to restart the graphics driver if it bails out.
  - reaperducer 3y ago
    Windows has a Ctrl+Shift+Win+B shortcut to restart the graphics driver if it bails out. The fact that Windows has a built-in shortcut to restart the graphics driver illustrates that graphics drivers are not as faultless as the parent poster believes.
  - jcelerier 3y ago
    ohhhh I didn't know this one (as I have of course the same problem on windows regularly on that machine but then I just reboot)
- deleted 3y ago
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- spookie 3y ago
  I don't know... Sometimes I've to pull Windows into safe mode and run DDU. The reasons are varied. I assume macOS might run into similar things, all software has bugs
- prmoustache 3y ago
  Same for xkill? Who needs to kill a graphical application every day and what kind of distro parent commenter is using to need to do that in 2023?
  - h4ckerle 3y ago
    Not OP, but I use xkill semi regularly (like 1-2 times a week) to check whether an app is running in xwayland or natively...
    - E39M5S62 3y ago
      xeyes can check that too, without killing the application.
  - jcelerier 3y ago
    i'm happy for you if you never have any application that hangs and ends as a zombie process but for me it happens very, very regularly (generally because of some stuff being on a network share or some hardware being plugged in an out a bit too much.. like unplugging an USB soundcard when it's being actively used, this one always causes some mess)
  - bandie91 3y ago
    who runs js in a web browser every day in 2023.
  - jcelerier 3y ago
    aha, I just used it for a very simple reason: it was simpler for me to type "<meta+d> xkill" and point & shoot than to go through the save & exit confirm dialogs of a GUI app I was about to close
- seanw444 3y ago
  With great power comes great responsibility. If you don't want the responsibility, that's fine, but someone else gets the power.
- gabrielhidasy 3y ago
  Last time I had to do that, it was on Windows 11 on a friends PC that was unexpectedly using 1024x768 on his 4k HDR monitor. Glad I don't have to deal with that, Arch just works
  - mcguire 3y ago
    Shades of my old Vic20.
- mcpackieh 3y ago
  glxgears was/is useful if you use a proprietary graphics driver. Those are prone to getting broken when you update to a new kernel. With in-kernel drivers for most GPUs this is much less of a problem today. Probably still a problem for Nvidia owners.
- lmm 3y ago
  > It's 2023 and there are stable graphical operating systems that don't make you check 'if the GPU driver bailed out' every 15 minutes... In my experience it's got nothing to do with the operating system and everything to do with who wrote your graphics card driver. (NVidia is stable everywhere, AMD is... not).
  - anthk 3y ago
    >AMD is not... We are not in the Radeon times with GATOS project any more. Since the radeon(4) driver, Radeon cards might work much better with open drivers and a current MESA release than NVIDIA except for machine learning.
simias 3y ago
Xev is super useful when messing with keybindings. I also use xmag (not in this list) when I want to inspect something on screen or as a makeshift color picker.
- mcpackieh 3y ago
  If anybody uses kwin, you can set mouse-wheel bindings for zooming with a keyboard modifier using xbindkeys like this: "qdbus6 org.kde.kglobalaccel /component/kwin invokeShortcut view_zoom_in" Mod4 + Super_L + b:4 "qdbus6 org.kde.kglobalaccel /component/kwin invokeShortcut view_zoom_out" Mod4 + Super_L + b:5 You can change Mod4+Super_L to whatever modifier keys you like.
Twirrim 3y ago
xdotool sits that the heart of a few useful keyboard macros I have set up, e.g. ZOOM=$(xdotool search --limit 1 --name "Zoom Meeting" || xdotool search --limit 1 --name "Zoom Webinar") if [ -n "${ZOOM}" ]; then xdotool windowactivate --sync "${ZOOM}" sleep 0.1 xdotool key --clearmodifiers "alt+a" fi Finds the zoom meeting or webinar I'm in, brings it to top, and unmutes it. Very useful
alamortsubite 3y ago
I recently discovered xdotool and it's fantastic. I'm using it with lirc to run a special media TV for my mom, who has Alzheimer's.

bzzzt 3y ago

It's 2023 and there are stable graphical operating systems that don't make you check 'if the GPU driver bailed out' every 15 minutes...

Krssst 3y ago
Do they also not include telemetry or forcefully installed software you never asked for but cannot remove anyway and will remind you of their existence ar every opportunity?
- dgfitz 3y ago
  Yes.
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]
failuser 3y ago
It’s more of the driver’s fault, right? BTE, Windows has a Ctrl+Shift+Win+B shortcut to restart the graphics driver if it bails out.
- reaperducer 3y ago
  Windows has a Ctrl+Shift+Win+B shortcut to restart the graphics driver if it bails out. The fact that Windows has a built-in shortcut to restart the graphics driver illustrates that graphics drivers are not as faultless as the parent poster believes.
- jcelerier 3y ago
  ohhhh I didn't know this one (as I have of course the same problem on windows regularly on that machine but then I just reboot)
deleted 3y ago
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spookie 3y ago
I don't know... Sometimes I've to pull Windows into safe mode and run DDU. The reasons are varied. I assume macOS might run into similar things, all software has bugs
prmoustache 3y ago
Same for xkill? Who needs to kill a graphical application every day and what kind of distro parent commenter is using to need to do that in 2023?
- h4ckerle 3y ago
  Not OP, but I use xkill semi regularly (like 1-2 times a week) to check whether an app is running in xwayland or natively...
  - E39M5S62 3y ago
    xeyes can check that too, without killing the application.
- jcelerier 3y ago
  i'm happy for you if you never have any application that hangs and ends as a zombie process but for me it happens very, very regularly (generally because of some stuff being on a network share or some hardware being plugged in an out a bit too much.. like unplugging an USB soundcard when it's being actively used, this one always causes some mess)
- bandie91 3y ago
  who runs js in a web browser every day in 2023.
- jcelerier 3y ago
  aha, I just used it for a very simple reason: it was simpler for me to type "<meta+d> xkill" and point & shoot than to go through the save & exit confirm dialogs of a GUI app I was about to close
seanw444 3y ago
With great power comes great responsibility. If you don't want the responsibility, that's fine, but someone else gets the power.
gabrielhidasy 3y ago
Last time I had to do that, it was on Windows 11 on a friends PC that was unexpectedly using 1024x768 on his 4k HDR monitor. Glad I don't have to deal with that, Arch just works
- mcguire 3y ago
  Shades of my old Vic20.
mcpackieh 3y ago
glxgears was/is useful if you use a proprietary graphics driver. Those are prone to getting broken when you update to a new kernel. With in-kernel drivers for most GPUs this is much less of a problem today. Probably still a problem for Nvidia owners.
lmm 3y ago
> It's 2023 and there are stable graphical operating systems that don't make you check 'if the GPU driver bailed out' every 15 minutes... In my experience it's got nothing to do with the operating system and everything to do with who wrote your graphics card driver. (NVidia is stable everywhere, AMD is... not).
- anthk 3y ago
  >AMD is not... We are not in the Radeon times with GATOS project any more. Since the radeon(4) driver, Radeon cards might work much better with open drivers and a current MESA release than NVIDIA except for machine learning.

simias 3y ago

Xev is super useful when messing with keybindings. I also use xmag (not in this list) when I want to inspect something on screen or as a makeshift color picker.

mcpackieh 3y ago
If anybody uses kwin, you can set mouse-wheel bindings for zooming with a keyboard modifier using xbindkeys like this: "qdbus6 org.kde.kglobalaccel /component/kwin invokeShortcut view_zoom_in" Mod4 + Super_L + b:4 "qdbus6 org.kde.kglobalaccel /component/kwin invokeShortcut view_zoom_out" Mod4 + Super_L + b:5 You can change Mod4+Super_L to whatever modifier keys you like.

Twirrim 3y ago

xdotool sits that the heart of a few useful keyboard macros I have set up, e.g. ZOOM=$(xdotool search --limit 1 --name "Zoom Meeting" || xdotool search --limit 1 --name "Zoom Webinar") if [ -n "${ZOOM}" ]; then xdotool windowactivate --sync "${ZOOM}" sleep 0.1 xdotool key --clearmodifiers "alt+a" fi Finds the zoom meeting or webinar I'm in, brings it to top, and unmutes it. Very useful

alamortsubite 3y ago

I recently discovered xdotool and it's fantastic. I'm using it with lirc to run a special media TV for my mom, who has Alzheimer's.