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Sad, I was really tempted to buy this but the thing that held me back was that they could only offer 250W power output which is the ~EU limit. Sadly, only non-
by Daviey 3y ago
Sad, I was really tempted to buy this but the thing that held me back was that they could only offer 250W power output which is the ~EU limit. Sadly, only non-legal products are appealing to a significant part of the market.
- ilyt 3y agoYeah, people really just want a small electric motorcycle but without fucking with getting actual license for it.
- 0JzW 3y agothis is the worst in amsterdam where you see ebikes flying past at 45-50kph without a single care in the world who they might hit
- zihotki 3y agoAnd usually without a helmet - in NL it's not obligatory to wear a helmet on a standard or basic electric bicycle. There is a lot of disscussion about this safety issue but I'm not aware of any plans to improve the situation
- Daviey 3y agoYeah, except I do have a motorcycle license. So, find me a road legal e-fucking 1000w bike, where I can get it registered, taxed and insured.
- yourusername 3y agoIt's called a electric scooter, they're about $1500-2500.
- Daviey 3y agoWhich is neither an eBike, nor legal in the UK and many parts of the EU. Other than that, perfect solution.
- yourusername 3y agoA scooter as in a moped? Should be legal in the entire EU and you can ride it on a A or AM license. For a ebike that category is called a speed pedelec, legal in most EU countries (license requirements differ from no license to license AM).
- Daviey 3y agoAh, I would think of an electronic scooter to be a standing style one, similar to the ones you can hire in most major cities. A moped scooter, is really not comparable to the solution of an ebike/escooter. A pedelec is limited to 250W in most of the EU and UK, which goes back to my first point.
- yourusername 3y agoOk misunderstanding, i'm mainly familiar with Dutch/Belgian law. In NL pedelecs can be 4kW and 1kW in Belgium.
- Daviey 3y agoInteresting, I didn't know that. Does it need be, and is it even possible for it, to be registered? I understood 2002/24/EC limited it to 250W for it to be legal unregistered pedelec, but member states didn't seem to provide a way of it being registered, as they didn't have the correct vehicle classifications for them, which means there was no legal way to use an ebike above 250W. I'd love to be wrong!
- zihotki 3y agoThe pedelec's in NL must be registered, they have a license plate and require a license and a helmet.
- ilyt 3y agoThat's the problem, once you're targeting people that had some kind of license majority of them want something a bit more than a simple e-bike so the market is tiny. So there is plenty of scooters but not really much else