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Why would we send him to jail anyways? Google, Facebook, and thousands of other companies are doing the exact same thing right now. Jesse some guy tried to over

Why would we send him to jail anyways? Google, Facebook, and thousands of other companies are doing the exact same thing right now. Jesse some guy tried to overthrow the US government and he isn't in jail. Once you get enough $ meaningful punishment is mostly out of the question here...

jraby3 3y ago
I don’t think Facebook or google has lied to the US government about sending US citizen data to China.
solveit 3y ago
>Jesse some guy tried to overthrow the US government and he isn't in jail. Once you get enough $ meaningful punishment is mostly out of the question here... If you're talking about Trump, he's possibly the worst example you could pick for your case, as his treatment has nothing to do with his wealth and everything to do with the fact that he is the previous President...
- thumbuddy 3y ago
  I respect your opinion. But personally feel that his wealth and varied enterprises are exactly how he became president in the first place. The inordinate amount of lies, and propaganda that composed his campaign were treated as valid points of view despite being objectively wrong because there is a culture of wealth worshipping in the US. "If I give the rich guy my vote he will make me prosperous too!" Or "he is wealthy because God has blessed him"(a surprisingly common well documented evangelical belief). But if ya disagree with that, that's fine. Can take a quick Google search and find hundreds of instances were wealthy people committed serious crimes and received no substantial punishment for doing so compared to their less influential counterparts. I could list some, but I trust you can do that for yourself.
ThunderSizzle 3y ago
Yeah, that guy is currently sitting pretty in the white house. The machine he works for rigged the election, on multiple levels, and started a proxy war over what appears to a place of great interest of corrupt politicians. Got to protect The Big Guy's 10% cut.
- piva00 3y ago
  > Yeah, that guy is currently sitting pretty in the white house. > and started a proxy war over what appears to a place of great interest of corrupt politicians Putin does not sit in the White House in Moscow, that's where Russia's Prime Minister sits :)
  - ThunderSizzle 3y ago
    Who's the prison guard that opened the cell for him to get out? Who's the prison guard whose watching from a sniper tower while the prisoner rampages? Both of those are the American President. The war in Ukraine was fully preventable, and could probably even be stopped immediately, if the President wanted to do so. But that would require a living person in the Office, and the military-industrial complex not desiring another 20 year proxy war.
    - piva00 3y ago
      Write in full sentences and paragraphs explaining your point, not some aloof metaphorical rhetorical questions leading into platitudes. I don't understand what you are saying, there's no explanation of how the war was fully preventable, just a statement as if that was a shared fact between you and me (it isn't). No explanation of how to stop this war without Russia annexing a huge chunk of another sovereign country. No explanation on how a Russian invasion is actually a proxy war created by whatever you are saying. I feel dumber by reading this...
- mcpackieh 3y ago
  Usually I can understand the basis or motivation behind political gripes even if I don't agree with them or the values that motivate the claim. But in the case of Biden starting a proxy war, you're totally fucking nuts. That war started in 2014, two presidencies before Biden. Not to mention Biden oversaw the War with Afghanistan actually end while the previous two presidents blew hot air about ending it but never actually had the balls to commit. Bush the Younger: Started two wars, threatened at least two more, and ended none. Obama: Ended one of those wars and continued the other. Had a third start under his watch. Trump: Didn't start any wars, and didn't end any either. Biden: Ended the other Bush war, and saw that third war continue.

jraby3 3y ago

I don’t think Facebook or google has lied to the US government about sending US citizen data to China.

solveit 3y ago

>Jesse some guy tried to overthrow the US government and he isn't in jail. Once you get enough $ meaningful punishment is mostly out of the question here... If you're talking about Trump, he's possibly the worst example you could pick for your case, as his treatment has nothing to do with his wealth and everything to do with the fact that he is the previous President...

thumbuddy 3y ago
I respect your opinion. But personally feel that his wealth and varied enterprises are exactly how he became president in the first place. The inordinate amount of lies, and propaganda that composed his campaign were treated as valid points of view despite being objectively wrong because there is a culture of wealth worshipping in the US. "If I give the rich guy my vote he will make me prosperous too!" Or "he is wealthy because God has blessed him"(a surprisingly common well documented evangelical belief). But if ya disagree with that, that's fine. Can take a quick Google search and find hundreds of instances were wealthy people committed serious crimes and received no substantial punishment for doing so compared to their less influential counterparts. I could list some, but I trust you can do that for yourself.

ThunderSizzle 3y ago

Yeah, that guy is currently sitting pretty in the white house. The machine he works for rigged the election, on multiple levels, and started a proxy war over what appears to a place of great interest of corrupt politicians. Got to protect The Big Guy's 10% cut.

piva00 3y ago
> Yeah, that guy is currently sitting pretty in the white house. > and started a proxy war over what appears to a place of great interest of corrupt politicians Putin does not sit in the White House in Moscow, that's where Russia's Prime Minister sits :)
- ThunderSizzle 3y ago
  Who's the prison guard that opened the cell for him to get out? Who's the prison guard whose watching from a sniper tower while the prisoner rampages? Both of those are the American President. The war in Ukraine was fully preventable, and could probably even be stopped immediately, if the President wanted to do so. But that would require a living person in the Office, and the military-industrial complex not desiring another 20 year proxy war.
  - piva00 3y ago
    Write in full sentences and paragraphs explaining your point, not some aloof metaphorical rhetorical questions leading into platitudes. I don't understand what you are saying, there's no explanation of how the war was fully preventable, just a statement as if that was a shared fact between you and me (it isn't). No explanation of how to stop this war without Russia annexing a huge chunk of another sovereign country. No explanation on how a Russian invasion is actually a proxy war created by whatever you are saying. I feel dumber by reading this...
mcpackieh 3y ago
Usually I can understand the basis or motivation behind political gripes even if I don't agree with them or the values that motivate the claim. But in the case of Biden starting a proxy war, you're totally fucking nuts. That war started in 2014, two presidencies before Biden. Not to mention Biden oversaw the War with Afghanistan actually end while the previous two presidents blew hot air about ending it but never actually had the balls to commit. Bush the Younger: Started two wars, threatened at least two more, and ended none. Obama: Ended one of those wars and continued the other. Had a third start under his watch. Trump: Didn't start any wars, and didn't end any either. Biden: Ended the other Bush war, and saw that third war continue.