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> The ad tech companies? That would not be fair If I send you a video camera and tell you to put it in your retail store and stream me the video and you put in

> The ad tech companies? That would not be fair If I send you a video camera and tell you to put it in your retail store and stream me the video and you put in your changing room and send me the data and I don't tell you to stop, am I free from liability?

circuit10 3y ago
If you were doing that to millions of people and automatically analysing the video streams you get back for general trends then you wouldn’t really have a way to know that’s happening
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- throw9away6 3y ago
  Yep so maybe massive fines and jail time would be a good deterrent
notahacker 3y ago
I certainly hope I'm free from liability from you sending me illegal videos of naked people unless I've explicitly requested illegal videos of naked people. More to the point, if companies are required to forensically analyse the hashes sent to their API endpoints to check they haven't received anything sensitive, the internet in its modern form would essentially cease to exist.
- throw9away6 3y ago
  What if your app sucks up all the data from my phone without consent and you get my nudes? I’d like to claw back your bonus for that at the very least
roadbuster 3y ago
> and I don't tell you to stop Alternate analogy: an IoT thermometer vendor sells you a device to track temperature in your room, but you decide to stick it up someone's butt. Will the IoT vendor know the temperature reading is personal and rectal? Should they be held liable for not proactively attempting to scrub-out numbers which may represent gluteal climate?
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
  It seemed flawed on first reading but I think this analogy holds if one assumes (for the sake of argument) that it’s Definitely Illegal to be accepting these readings. It would be pretty hard to be sure about filtering out arbitrary strings of numbers (ie SSN) when one is also intending to accept such strings.

circuit10 3y ago

If you were doing that to millions of people and automatically analysing the video streams you get back for general trends then you wouldn’t really have a way to know that’s happening

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throw9away6 3y ago
Yep so maybe massive fines and jail time would be a good deterrent

notahacker 3y ago

I certainly hope I'm free from liability from you sending me illegal videos of naked people unless I've explicitly requested illegal videos of naked people. More to the point, if companies are required to forensically analyse the hashes sent to their API endpoints to check they haven't received anything sensitive, the internet in its modern form would essentially cease to exist.

throw9away6 3y ago
What if your app sucks up all the data from my phone without consent and you get my nudes? I’d like to claw back your bonus for that at the very least

roadbuster 3y ago

> and I don't tell you to stop Alternate analogy: an IoT thermometer vendor sells you a device to track temperature in your room, but you decide to stick it up someone's butt. Will the IoT vendor know the temperature reading is personal and rectal? Should they be held liable for not proactively attempting to scrub-out numbers which may represent gluteal climate?

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
It seemed flawed on first reading but I think this analogy holds if one assumes (for the sake of argument) that it’s Definitely Illegal to be accepting these readings. It would be pretty hard to be sure about filtering out arbitrary strings of numbers (ie SSN) when one is also intending to accept such strings.