I absolutely did not say I knew a specific date. Only that the goal itself is easily quantifiable. And no, just because one doesn't know the end date (or even

I absolutely did not say I knew a specific date. Only that the goal itself is easily quantifiable. And no, just because one doesn't know the end date (or even a range) doesn't put a conflict in the "forever" category. Do you think the Western powers knew how long it would get that job finished, back around '41-'42? So, no, I don't need to take the "forever war" bait. This is getting boring. You can keep on playing that game if you like. Just not with me.