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> a nice strong fine Who receives the fine? * The Tax Prep companies? That would be fair: they are obligated to handle private user data in a responsible mann
by roadbuster 3y ago
> a nice strong fine
Who receives the fine?
* The Tax Prep companies? That would be fair: they are obligated to handle private user data in a responsible manner
* The ad tech companies? That would not be fair: they didn't want the data, didn't know it was being sent, and almost assuredly didn't use it for any kind of ad serving, measurement, or optimization.
- Eisenstein 3y ago> The ad tech companies? That would not be fair If I send you a video camera and tell you to put it in your retail store and stream me the video and you put in your changing room and send me the data and I don't tell you to stop, am I free from liability?
- circuit10 3y agoIf you were doing that to millions of people and automatically analysing the video streams you get back for general trends then you wouldn’t really have a way to know that’s happening
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- throw9away6 3y agoYep so maybe massive fines and jail time would be a good deterrent
- notahacker 3y agoI certainly hope I'm free from liability from you sending me illegal videos of naked people unless I've explicitly requested illegal videos of naked people. More to the point, if companies are required to forensically analyse the hashes sent to their API endpoints to check they haven't received anything sensitive, the internet in its modern form would essentially cease to exist.
- throw9away6 3y agoWhat if your app sucks up all the data from my phone without consent and you get my nudes? I’d like to claw back your bonus for that at the very least
- roadbuster 3y ago> and I don't tell you to stop Alternate analogy: an IoT thermometer vendor sells you a device to track temperature in your room, but you decide to stick it up someone's butt. Will the IoT vendor know the temperature reading is personal and rectal? Should they be held liable for not proactively attempting to scrub-out numbers which may represent gluteal climate?
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y agoIt seemed flawed on first reading but I think this analogy holds if one assumes (for the sake of argument) that it’s Definitely Illegal to be accepting these readings. It would be pretty hard to be sure about filtering out arbitrary strings of numbers (ie SSN) when one is also intending to accept such strings.
- throw9away6 3y agoWhy not? Software has consequences and we need to hold people accountable for moving fast and breaking laws. We don’t but we should.
- bhhaskin 3y agoHere is a fun question. What law has been broken?
- magicalist 3y agoIt seems like the claim is Internal Revenue Code §7216
- bhhaskin 3y agoThanks! It will be interesting to see how this plays out. In the case of software the user is the one preparing the return and not the software itself. Although people using software on behalf of someone else would be guilty.
- blacksmith_tb 3y agoI am almost certain Meta has some basic filtering in place to make sure they aren't storing, say, obvious credit card numbers, SSNs, etc. So I would say they're open to at least a little liability if they failed to match on financial info.
- technick 3y agoIt should be treated like any other illegal purchase, the seller and buyer gets brought to justice. Try telling a cop that you didn't mean to buy fentanyl with your other illegal drugs.