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> Why should we be rooting for his success? Rooting for someone's success is not about personal preferences or endorsing their actions. It's about fostering a

> Why should we be rooting for his success? Rooting for someone's success is not about personal preferences or endorsing their actions. It's about fostering a positive and supportive environment that encourages growth and achievement. > Why would I want to live in a world where "a superapp" is needed? Super-apps already exist in other markets. Entrepreneurs want to create ones in the US market to foster the diversity of options. This is a healthy process. You live in the world with wars, but you want to do everything in your power to see Twitter fail. That's strange. A world catered only to your preferences is unlikely, so you have to be realistic. > Why would I want to live in a world where you have one company in control of the "town square"? I don't know. You don't have to live in that town. > Personally, I just wanted Twitter to fail because I think that any ad-funded business is bad for us. Pretty much every business in the world is driven by ads, one way or another. However, as I said, Musk doesn't care about ads. In fact, he wants even fewer ads on Twitter. That being said, his goals kinda align with what you want.

rglullis 3y ago
> It's about fostering a positive and supportive environment that encourages growth and achievement. Not when this "growth" and "achievement" is something that affects part of the society negatively, or when there might be unknown consequences. > Super-apps already exist in other markets. And they are enablers of authoritarian states and continuous centralized power over a handful of corporations. > You don't have to live in that town. Just on another thread I was being accused of being "socially inept" for refusing to use WhatsApp. If we live in a world where so much power is centralized into a few corporations, they affect everyone's lives, even if they don't participate directly on it. > Pretty much every business in the world is driven by ads Does it help you sleep at night to be telling yourself this kind of bullshit, or are you just apathetic? > he wants even fewer ads on Twitter. You forgot to capitalize your Lord's name.
- andreygrehov 3y ago
  > You forgot to capitalize your Lord's name. Emotions are the enemy of a constructive dialogue. I bail.
flagrant_taco 3y ago
> It's about fostering a positive and supportive environment that encourages growth and achievement. That honestly sounds more like the goal for an elementary school class than the goal for an adult society. We don't necessarily need to support and encourage development that we don't agree worth, or even see as dangerous. And the idea that growth and achievement are always good things and should be wholly supported and encouraged sounds lovely on the surface, but there are plenty of things that could be considered achievement that we are better off without.

rglullis 3y ago

> It's about fostering a positive and supportive environment that encourages growth and achievement. Not when this "growth" and "achievement" is something that affects part of the society negatively, or when there might be unknown consequences. > Super-apps already exist in other markets. And they are enablers of authoritarian states and continuous centralized power over a handful of corporations. > You don't have to live in that town. Just on another thread I was being accused of being "socially inept" for refusing to use WhatsApp. If we live in a world where so much power is centralized into a few corporations, they affect everyone's lives, even if they don't participate directly on it. > Pretty much every business in the world is driven by ads Does it help you sleep at night to be telling yourself this kind of bullshit, or are you just apathetic? > he wants even fewer ads on Twitter. You forgot to capitalize your Lord's name.

andreygrehov 3y ago
> You forgot to capitalize your Lord's name. Emotions are the enemy of a constructive dialogue. I bail.

flagrant_taco 3y ago

> It's about fostering a positive and supportive environment that encourages growth and achievement. That honestly sounds more like the goal for an elementary school class than the goal for an adult society. We don't necessarily need to support and encourage development that we don't agree worth, or even see as dangerous. And the idea that growth and achievement are always good things and should be wholly supported and encouraged sounds lovely on the surface, but there are plenty of things that could be considered achievement that we are better off without.