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> I'd also say it's that the RPis are generally much cheaper IF you can actually get one. That's a REALLY big IF. RPis have been subsidized for a long time.

by bsder 3y ago

> I'd also say it's that the RPis are generally much cheaper IF you can actually get one. That's a REALLY big IF. RPis have been subsidized for a long time. The fact that the subsidy is gone means that they don't seem to be willing to release them to we plebians very much anymore. They're fine releasing them to T-Mobile, though. Anybody not a pure hobbyist left the RPi space long ago.

mlyle 3y ago
> Anybody not a pure hobbyist left the RPi space long ago. Actually, the constrained supply is because during COVID and aftermath they decided to support industrial customers to the detriment of hobbyist supply. They're currently cranking out a million units per month and supply is returning to retail. https://rpilocator.com/ https://rpilocator.com/ was completely bare a few weeks ago, and now there's a lot of retailers with stock (though it's still not where it should be).
- geerlingguy 3y ago
  Restocks have shot through the roof, and buying restrictions are being lifted here and there. I found Pi 4 and Pi Zero in stock both times I visited Micro Center this month, and when I needed one a couple weeks ago I saw it was available at PiShop.us too... I think this month it really shifted from "trickling availability" to full deluge. Right now people like me who've wanted one but have been holding off are finally making our purchases. Once that appetite is filled, I can imagine we'll just see some places with steady stock. Still waiting on CM4 though. Those are still backordered and out of stock most places.
  - mlyle 3y ago
    Digikey has CM4's right now-- 270 in stock.
Kadin 3y ago
> Anybody not a pure hobbyist left the RPi space long ago. I suspect a lot of hobbyists have left too, and that's why there's so many not-quite-knockoff SBCs on the market (ranging from the respectable OrangePis to weird fly-by-night stuff on AliExpress made by a company that's already out of business before your order arrives). But I don't know how many people are using alternatives because they want to use alternatives. Raspberry Pis have been like hen's teeth for a couple of years now. If you have a NIB Pi4, until recently you could sell that sucker and probably by 3 OrangePis instead. But if RPis were the same price? I think they'd sell like hotcakes just like they did a few years ago, and you'd see them in every random project on Youtube. I don't know of any SBC (other than very high-end industrial embedded modules) that are as well-documented as the Pis. I'm not sure the Pico and Pico W are going to make as much of a splash as the original did (it's harder for people to get started with an overgrown microcontroller than it is a tiny PC), but I expect them to sell very well, too. Maybe they won't show up in every disposable pregnancy test and lightbulb like the ESPs and Nordics, but I suspect we'll see them in some commercial products too.

by bsder 3y ago

mlyle 3y ago

> Anybody not a pure hobbyist left the RPi space long ago. Actually, the constrained supply is because during COVID and aftermath they decided to support industrial customers to the detriment of hobbyist supply. They're currently cranking out a million units per month and supply is returning to retail. https://rpilocator.com/ https://rpilocator.com/ was completely bare a few weeks ago, and now there's a lot of retailers with stock (though it's still not where it should be).

geerlingguy 3y ago
Restocks have shot through the roof, and buying restrictions are being lifted here and there. I found Pi 4 and Pi Zero in stock both times I visited Micro Center this month, and when I needed one a couple weeks ago I saw it was available at PiShop.us too... I think this month it really shifted from "trickling availability" to full deluge. Right now people like me who've wanted one but have been holding off are finally making our purchases. Once that appetite is filled, I can imagine we'll just see some places with steady stock. Still waiting on CM4 though. Those are still backordered and out of stock most places.
- mlyle 3y ago
  Digikey has CM4's right now-- 270 in stock.

Kadin 3y ago

> Anybody not a pure hobbyist left the RPi space long ago. I suspect a lot of hobbyists have left too, and that's why there's so many not-quite-knockoff SBCs on the market (ranging from the respectable OrangePis to weird fly-by-night stuff on AliExpress made by a company that's already out of business before your order arrives). But I don't know how many people are using alternatives because they want to use alternatives. Raspberry Pis have been like hen's teeth for a couple of years now. If you have a NIB Pi4, until recently you could sell that sucker and probably by 3 OrangePis instead. But if RPis were the same price? I think they'd sell like hotcakes just like they did a few years ago, and you'd see them in every random project on Youtube. I don't know of any SBC (other than very high-end industrial embedded modules) that are as well-documented as the Pis. I'm not sure the Pico and Pico W are going to make as much of a splash as the original did (it's harder for people to get started with an overgrown microcontroller than it is a tiny PC), but I expect them to sell very well, too. Maybe they won't show up in every disposable pregnancy test and lightbulb like the ESPs and Nordics, but I suspect we'll see them in some commercial products too.