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your mistake is thinking that there is moral equivalence in stealing from your neighbor vs stealing from a billionaire. and please define what honor means to y
by digging 3y ago
your mistake is thinking that there is moral equivalence in stealing from your neighbor vs stealing from a billionaire.
and please define what honor means to you in this conversation, we've moved too far past pithiness.
- WalterBright 3y ago> there is moral equivalence in stealing from your neighbor vs stealing from a billionaire They are the same. You said it yourself: STEALING
- solarmist 3y agoI read this as a shortcut phrasing, not meant to be literal. Doing something that negatively impacts their stock price could be categorized as "stealing" from a billionaire. Is that really stealing? Purposely infringing on a company's trademarks/copyrights/marketing/etc (I don't mean pirating movies/books/etc) to gain publicity/get started could be called stealing from that company. But I don't consider that immoral in the slightest. There often isn't simple terminology for discussing these differences, so people use shortcuts like this.
- WalterBright 3y agoSan Francisco amply shows the results of justifying stealing from "The Man". > Doing something that negatively impacts their stock price could be categorized as "stealing" from a billionaire. Is that really stealing? No. There isn't much of a grey area around stealing. > not meant to be literal What's amusing when people try to reframe stealing as "liberating", or "getting paid", meaning they know it's dishonorable.
- solarmist 3y agoNo, at least in my case, it's that I literally don't have the terminology to phrase it better. Such is the case when I'm talking about subjects I have practical experience in but little formal knowledge of.
- olddustytrail 3y agoNo they're not, even with caps lock engaged.
- WalterBright 3y agoYeah, they are. A true story: A friend of mine years ago worked at Microsoft. He noticed that one of his colleagues was pilfering things in the office, and when asked about it said it was ok to steal from Microsoft because it was a wealthy company. One day, he found a stack of 4 hubcaps on his chair. He asked around, and my friend said "oh, I put those on your chair. I figured I'd give you a hand so you don't have to steal hubcaps from the parking lot." He got the message and that was the end of the pilfering.
- digging 3y agoThat's a very stupid story, but it does perfectly demonstrate the total lack of understanding you and your friend have.