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Yeah, this article reads more like a critique of the way ActivityPub and Mastodon work. None of this is particular to Meta.

PaulHoule 3y ago
The odd thing is that even the biggest fedi promoters don't seem to get it. I thought "mastodon.social" was based in Germany, heart of GDPR country but there is no consent theater, no harassment by cookie popups, certainly no controls over data. I really don't mind, but there is some serious cognitive dissonance there.
- Finnucane 3y ago
  There's no consent theatre because mastodon isn't doing anything that requires consent under the GDPR.
- sunbum 3y ago
  Because almost none of that is actually required if you are not collecting data outside of the actual usage of the application.
  - PaulHoule 3y ago
    People are documenting their own personal lives without any protections. You can delete your account and the system will circulate a polite notification that other servers should delete that information. If you are a "sexworker" (sic) and you doxx yourself tough luck. If you reveal your mental illness through the things you write about and the language patterns you use tough luck. (Pro tip: machine learning algorithms can read your social media posts and psychodiagnose you better than the psychiatric nurse practitioner you'll struggle to get an appointment with.) People get these spams inviting them to play games where they ask questions trying to gather their answers to break into their bank account such as "What was the name of your first pet?" Even if you didn't have a tendency to be paranoid maybe you should.
    - chc 3y ago
      What does any of what you just said have to do with GDPR requirements?
      - PaulHoule 3y ago
        If this is right https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/7280#issuecomment-385193030 https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/7280#issuecommen... #1 is "consent theater" which I am not noticing, maybe I missed it. Even if I give consent to one server am I really giving consent to any other server? Can any other server be bound to my agreement with the first server? #2 is a "polite request" and not a guaranteed property of the platform. #3 seems to be satisfied.
- numpad0 3y ago
  Fedi promoters are traumatized from Mastodon explosion of late 2010s that forced them into picking either of revolustionist-terrorist or anime-loli or trans-furry factions to support, of which the last one is the only less-than-seriously-considering-self-harm choice for most. It still must be full pain and giant source for self contradiction.

PaulHoule 3y ago

The odd thing is that even the biggest fedi promoters don't seem to get it. I thought "mastodon.social" was based in Germany, heart of GDPR country but there is no consent theater, no harassment by cookie popups, certainly no controls over data. I really don't mind, but there is some serious cognitive dissonance there.

Finnucane 3y ago
There's no consent theatre because mastodon isn't doing anything that requires consent under the GDPR.
sunbum 3y ago
Because almost none of that is actually required if you are not collecting data outside of the actual usage of the application.
- PaulHoule 3y ago
  People are documenting their own personal lives without any protections. You can delete your account and the system will circulate a polite notification that other servers should delete that information. If you are a "sexworker" (sic) and you doxx yourself tough luck. If you reveal your mental illness through the things you write about and the language patterns you use tough luck. (Pro tip: machine learning algorithms can read your social media posts and psychodiagnose you better than the psychiatric nurse practitioner you'll struggle to get an appointment with.) People get these spams inviting them to play games where they ask questions trying to gather their answers to break into their bank account such as "What was the name of your first pet?" Even if you didn't have a tendency to be paranoid maybe you should.
  - chc 3y ago
    What does any of what you just said have to do with GDPR requirements?
    - PaulHoule 3y ago
      If this is right https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/7280#issuecomment-385193030 https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/7280#issuecommen... #1 is "consent theater" which I am not noticing, maybe I missed it. Even if I give consent to one server am I really giving consent to any other server? Can any other server be bound to my agreement with the first server? #2 is a "polite request" and not a guaranteed property of the platform. #3 seems to be satisfied.
numpad0 3y ago
Fedi promoters are traumatized from Mastodon explosion of late 2010s that forced them into picking either of revolustionist-terrorist or anime-loli or trans-furry factions to support, of which the last one is the only less-than-seriously-considering-self-harm choice for most. It still must be full pain and giant source for self contradiction.