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> You limit people's windows installations to only permit apps that utilize the newer permissions system, and they'll screech about wanting to install chrome. M

by giobox 3y ago

> You limit people's windows installations to only permit apps that utilize the newer permissions system, and they'll screech about wanting to install chrome. Microsoft's attempts throughout the years, like 10S indicate as much. I don't think the 10S example works here at all - 10S was never locked down for security, it was locked down because it was for cheap devices to drive sales on the mandatory Microsoft Store software distribution - you get cheap Windows, it comes with software distribution strings attached was the deal offered with 10S effectively. People hated having a crippled copy of Windows on their cheap computer understandably because app availability on the Microsoft Store was poor at that time (and still is today), whether it had security benefits wasn't the issue there - people just wanted to use their computers to run a Windows app and rightly got upset when 10S couldn't sometimes. 10S was arguably much more a product planning/marketing decision to offer cheap Windows PCs at ChromeBook price points, even if there were some security implications.

gochi 3y ago
It works very well, because the Microsoft Store was trying to operate as other locked down stores do by enforcing better practices. Store apps used to have to use the new permissions system for example. 10S was locked down for security and even encouraged it after they dropped the cheap devices to help bolster secure environments on your own, Microsoft also benefited through control of the Store. They aren't mutually exclusive. So yes, the security benefits is the issue. Once you impact people's ability to install Chrome and give it full permissions, they scream. 10S didn't allow this, and Google (just using them due to popularity and because they weren't trying to be malicious here either) didn't give a damn about adhering to the new app format's restrictions on permissions.

by giobox 3y ago

gochi 3y ago

It works very well, because the Microsoft Store was trying to operate as other locked down stores do by enforcing better practices. Store apps used to have to use the new permissions system for example. 10S was locked down for security and even encouraged it after they dropped the cheap devices to help bolster secure environments on your own, Microsoft also benefited through control of the Store. They aren't mutually exclusive. So yes, the security benefits is the issue. Once you impact people's ability to install Chrome and give it full permissions, they scream. 10S didn't allow this, and Google (just using them due to popularity and because they weren't trying to be malicious here either) didn't give a damn about adhering to the new app format's restrictions on permissions.