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What?

bhouston 3y ago
At least Ketamine: https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-ketamine-use-security-clearance-2023-7 https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-ketamine-use-secur... and also pot (Joe Rogan podcast from a couple years ago.) Wouldn't be surprised if he is also microdosing LSD, it is quite popular right now in high-tech circles (see: https://www.wsj.com/articles/silicon-valley-microdosing-ketamine-lsd-magic-mushrooms-d381e214 https://www.wsj.com/articles/silicon-valley-microdosing-keta... ), but I don't think someone has accused him of that yet.
- gonehome 3y ago
  I've read articles like this since I started working in silicon valley in 2012, but I haven't seen it in person. Maybe some selection bias at play, but I'm generally pretty open. Stuff I have seen: - LSD usage is pretty common relative to where I grew up (midwest-ish), but usually rare (once a year, burning man, someone has tried it once) even so, I'd still guess this is a pretty small minority - I guess 15% max? I'd guess mostly this is curiosity driven, reading about it, etc. I've never seen anyone seriously use it as a productivity drug. - Adderall is more common, but that's because it's prescribed (and it works well so everyone thinks they have ADHD if they take it) - I haven't seen it abused, I've heard people talk about modafinil but have never met anyone that was actually taking it. Even in the adderall/adhd case, I'd guess 20% max? Most people I work with do not take it. - Ketamine I don't know anyone that's tried it beyond someone in the therapy trials and non-techie druggie types. Maybe it's more common and I'm not in the right circles, but I don't really buy it. I think it's rare and elevated by articles like this because it's salacious not because it's common. I'd guess my made up percentages are also too high.
  - bhouston 3y ago
    Personally, I haven't witness any drug use in the various developer circles I've run except for ADHD meds. The number on ADHD meds is somewhere around 5-10% I would guess...
    - kstrauser 3y ago
      In the Bay Area, I'd suspect that the number using weed is way higher.
      - gonehome 3y ago
        I'd guess 10% at most, but probably less (on a semi-regular basis, number for those that have ever tried it is higher). There's strong selection bias with drug use because drug users tend to cluster together, I suspect it's a lot less common than people think.
        Animats 3y ago
        > I suspect it's a lot less common than people think. Demand is not what the weed industry thought it would be.[1] [1] https://www.foodengineeringmag.com/articles/99944-price-per-lb-of-cannabis-falls-in-california-due-to-massive-overproduction https://www.foodengineeringmag.com/articles/99944-price-per-...

What?

At least Ketamine: https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-ketamine-use-security-clearance-2023-7 https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-ketamine-use-secur... and also pot (Joe Rogan podcast from a couple years ago.) Wouldn't be surprised if he is also microdosing LSD, it is quite popular right now in high-tech circles (see: https://www.wsj.com/articles/silicon-valley-microdosing-ketamine-lsd-magic-mushrooms-d381e214 https://www.wsj.com/articles/silicon-valley-microdosing-keta... ), but I don't think someone has accused him of that yet.

gonehome 3y ago
I've read articles like this since I started working in silicon valley in 2012, but I haven't seen it in person. Maybe some selection bias at play, but I'm generally pretty open. Stuff I have seen: - LSD usage is pretty common relative to where I grew up (midwest-ish), but usually rare (once a year, burning man, someone has tried it once) even so, I'd still guess this is a pretty small minority - I guess 15% max? I'd guess mostly this is curiosity driven, reading about it, etc. I've never seen anyone seriously use it as a productivity drug. - Adderall is more common, but that's because it's prescribed (and it works well so everyone thinks they have ADHD if they take it) - I haven't seen it abused, I've heard people talk about modafinil but have never met anyone that was actually taking it. Even in the adderall/adhd case, I'd guess 20% max? Most people I work with do not take it. - Ketamine I don't know anyone that's tried it beyond someone in the therapy trials and non-techie druggie types. Maybe it's more common and I'm not in the right circles, but I don't really buy it. I think it's rare and elevated by articles like this because it's salacious not because it's common. I'd guess my made up percentages are also too high.
- bhouston 3y ago
  Personally, I haven't witness any drug use in the various developer circles I've run except for ADHD meds. The number on ADHD meds is somewhere around 5-10% I would guess...
  - kstrauser 3y ago
    In the Bay Area, I'd suspect that the number using weed is way higher.
    - gonehome 3y ago
      I'd guess 10% at most, but probably less (on a semi-regular basis, number for those that have ever tried it is higher). There's strong selection bias with drug use because drug users tend to cluster together, I suspect it's a lot less common than people think.
      - Animats 3y ago
        > I suspect it's a lot less common than people think. Demand is not what the weed industry thought it would be.[1] [1] https://www.foodengineeringmag.com/articles/99944-price-per-lb-of-cannabis-falls-in-california-due-to-massive-overproduction https://www.foodengineeringmag.com/articles/99944-price-per-...