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This is the order of preference to store my personal data (i.e email, files, etc.): 1. Self-hosted by me 2. Stored by a for-profit company I am paying 3. Sto

by sph 3y ago

This is the order of preference to store my personal data (i.e email, files, etc.): 1. Self-hosted by me 2. Stored by a for-profit company I am paying 3. Stored by a megacorp 4. Stored by a non-profit -- 2 and 3 have an economic incentive not to lose my data, and have money to pay for decent engineers. 4 is basically having my data stored on a crappy Core2 Duo server under a staircase, managed by a teenager

adql 3y ago
I'd agree on that about e-mail but honestly wouldn't care for chat, as long as I can keep logs locally. > 4 is basically having my data stored on a crappy Core2 Duo server under a staircase, managed by a teenager ... isn't 1 the same then ? Aside from teenager part
- dopidopHN 3y ago
  See my comment, but I have some terrible trenched stories with how non profit run service. A last one : I was ask to pry open the personal windows of a freshly dead employee because apparently a bunch of critical informations were stored on it ( payroll, bunch of passwords to Linux boxes running stuff ) I refused, then asked to get permission of family. Then I learned that the plan was to basically reclaim that personal laptop of a dead employee because migrating stuff was too hard. I told them I was busy. I think they stole that laptop containing private correspondance and still use it today. It’s a NGO you heard off. Running on most continents. My take : IT and security are a distant thought in those places and you need strong top down directions and training to enforce basic hygiene
tpxl 3y ago
1 and 4 have an incentive not to keep your data, munch it into AI/ML, sell it to advertisers, governments, anyone who asks. 2 and 3 have absolutely no incentive not to lose your data. When was the last time any company got seriously hurt by a data breach? Hell, even password managers lose data and keep chugging on.
dopidopHN 3y ago
The teenager is now 38 and has moved states 3 time. But still has the full set of credentials on his personal laptop. Oh wait. He don’t anymore . since he switched laptop and don’t care anymore, but weirdly nobody made backup because their is a sense that this once teenager ought to keep things running, somehow. ( inspired by real life even. )

by sph 3y ago

adql 3y ago

I'd agree on that about e-mail but honestly wouldn't care for chat, as long as I can keep logs locally. > 4 is basically having my data stored on a crappy Core2 Duo server under a staircase, managed by a teenager ... isn't 1 the same then ? Aside from teenager part

dopidopHN 3y ago
See my comment, but I have some terrible trenched stories with how non profit run service. A last one : I was ask to pry open the personal windows of a freshly dead employee because apparently a bunch of critical informations were stored on it ( payroll, bunch of passwords to Linux boxes running stuff ) I refused, then asked to get permission of family. Then I learned that the plan was to basically reclaim that personal laptop of a dead employee because migrating stuff was too hard. I told them I was busy. I think they stole that laptop containing private correspondance and still use it today. It’s a NGO you heard off. Running on most continents. My take : IT and security are a distant thought in those places and you need strong top down directions and training to enforce basic hygiene

tpxl 3y ago

1 and 4 have an incentive not to keep your data, munch it into AI/ML, sell it to advertisers, governments, anyone who asks. 2 and 3 have absolutely no incentive not to lose your data. When was the last time any company got seriously hurt by a data breach? Hell, even password managers lose data and keep chugging on.

dopidopHN 3y ago

The teenager is now 38 and has moved states 3 time. But still has the full set of credentials on his personal laptop. Oh wait. He don’t anymore . since he switched laptop and don’t care anymore, but weirdly nobody made backup because their is a sense that this once teenager ought to keep things running, somehow. ( inspired by real life even. )