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I agree with this completely. I'd also point out that this is exactly how bubbles occur. "Everyone I know hates WhatsApp/Facebook/whatever" says the person who

by nl 3y ago

I agree with this completely. I'd also point out that this is exactly how bubbles occur. "Everyone I know hates WhatsApp/Facebook/whatever" says the person who refuses to communicate via those platforms.

Zambyte 3y ago
> I'd also point out that this is exactly how bubbles occur No it isn't. You'd be surprised in the variety of people that you meet when you don't use algorithmic systems to do so. Just because you only maintain relationships with people who are not so glued to WhatsApp that they won't communicate through any other means, does not mean you have created a bubble for yourself.
- kalleboo 3y ago
  So do you just call random phone numbers or something?
  - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
    They might walk somewhere and talk to some of the people they see on the way. They might do something when they get there and talk to people who are doing the same thing (or who just happen to be there).
    - kalleboo 3y ago
      People who use WhatsApp also go places, do things and talk to people. They don't sit at home alone in their room on WhatsApp 24/7. That's what Hacker News is for.
      - Zambyte 3y ago
        Then guess what? You might not find yourself in a bubble if you stop using WhatsApp. Which... is exactly what I said before.
      - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
        > People who use WhatsApp also go places, do things and talk to people. I'm sure that is true. I was suggesting alternative ideas to calling random phone numbers as a means of getting out of one's "bubble".
- twelve40 3y ago
  i use whatsapp to call my grandma and my aunt among other people, because that's what they use. Actually, my parents too, now that i think about it, they fall back to whatsapp all the time. How in tf is that an "algorithmic people-meeting system"??? did it pick a grandma for me according to some algorithm?
  - Zambyte 3y ago
    > think about it, they fall back to whatsapp all the time. How in tf is that an "algorithmic people-meeting system"??? It isn't. Nor did I say it was. The person I replied to said that not using WhatsApp is how social bubbles are formed. It isn't. That's what I was refuting.
- nl 3y ago
  Actually it is. It's true you are always able to avoid bubbles, and nothing I say precludes that ability. However, information bubbles are a function of friction and defaults. If communication lessens with a people who don't share a particular view (ie, that Whatsapp has to be avoided) then that friction lessens exposure to that viewpoint, forming a bubble. > you meet when you don't use algorithmic systems to do so. AFAIK there is no algorithmic system on Whatsapp to meet people.

by nl 3y ago

Zambyte 3y ago

> I'd also point out that this is exactly how bubbles occur No it isn't. You'd be surprised in the variety of people that you meet when you don't use algorithmic systems to do so. Just because you only maintain relationships with people who are not so glued to WhatsApp that they won't communicate through any other means, does not mean you have created a bubble for yourself.

kalleboo 3y ago
So do you just call random phone numbers or something?
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
  They might walk somewhere and talk to some of the people they see on the way. They might do something when they get there and talk to people who are doing the same thing (or who just happen to be there).
  - kalleboo 3y ago
    People who use WhatsApp also go places, do things and talk to people. They don't sit at home alone in their room on WhatsApp 24/7. That's what Hacker News is for.
    - Zambyte 3y ago
      Then guess what? You might not find yourself in a bubble if you stop using WhatsApp. Which... is exactly what I said before.
    - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
      > People who use WhatsApp also go places, do things and talk to people. I'm sure that is true. I was suggesting alternative ideas to calling random phone numbers as a means of getting out of one's "bubble".
twelve40 3y ago
i use whatsapp to call my grandma and my aunt among other people, because that's what they use. Actually, my parents too, now that i think about it, they fall back to whatsapp all the time. How in tf is that an "algorithmic people-meeting system"??? did it pick a grandma for me according to some algorithm?
- Zambyte 3y ago
  > think about it, they fall back to whatsapp all the time. How in tf is that an "algorithmic people-meeting system"??? It isn't. Nor did I say it was. The person I replied to said that not using WhatsApp is how social bubbles are formed. It isn't. That's what I was refuting.
nl 3y ago
Actually it is. It's true you are always able to avoid bubbles, and nothing I say precludes that ability. However, information bubbles are a function of friction and defaults. If communication lessens with a people who don't share a particular view (ie, that Whatsapp has to be avoided) then that friction lessens exposure to that viewpoint, forming a bubble. > you meet when you don't use algorithmic systems to do so. AFAIK there is no algorithmic system on Whatsapp to meet people.