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A way to further help breaking the cycle could be deleting the account. Probably it would avoid the sunken cost fallacy.
by petemir 3y ago
A way to further help breaking the cycle could be deleting the account. Probably it would avoid the sunken cost fallacy.
- jacquesm 3y agoI did just that with Twitter. But HN plays it smarter, you can't delete your account. But one of these days...
- DonHopkins 3y agoHN could milk the whales by monetizing deleting your account and individual posts. The higher your karma, the more it costs.
- jacquesm 3y agoHehe, don't give them any ideas. How are you otherwise? I should come and visit. Or you should come and visit. Or both!
- tough 3y agoIf you really wanna, you can ask manually for deletion and they will do their best to comply if you justify why you need to delete it.
- jacquesm 3y agoIt shouldn't need justification though. And it really should be automated. Apparently the YC lawyers are convinced that the current mechanism is GDPR compliant, I'm not so sure about that.
- tough 3y agoI guess their lawyers ignore the GDPR because they are not a business doing business with europeans. If this forum had any kind of paid offerings this might differ, but what do you want, them to block the whole EU a la Threads/Bard? As I understand it, this is due to the limitations of current (mod) tools, and justification just means you have to provide a human for some good reason to do -free work- for you. Like fearing being doxxed or whatever. I dunno, I'm a happy member of this forum and I appreciate dang and how the moderation works here, it could be better and automated but this is a small niche tech forum after all and not some giant social media network
- jacquesm 3y ago> I guess their lawyers ignore the GDPR because they are not a business doing business with europeans. That's not how the GDPR works. The GDPR does not kick in when there is a commercial transaction, it kicks in when you're talking about data, specifically data provided by EU subjects.
- tough 3y agoThat's not how law works, you cannot force other countries to abide by your laws just because you say so, well you can if you're the US, and you say so (but there's also the subtle threat of physical violence if needed) YMMV
- jacquesm 3y ago> That's not how law works, you cannot force other countries to abide by your laws just because you say so No countries are forced, just corporate entities in those countries that aim to transact with EU citizens. And that's perfectly fine, lots of countries have laws like that on their books and ways to enforce them. The only people that tend to object are those that are part of the group that wishes to trample on the rights of the people whose data they collect.
- tpxl 3y agoYCombinator has business in Europe and thus is within reach of European legislation.
- tough 3y agoWell, they might fund business companies, I would really want to know if they do have any kind of presence as a business entity in Europe (think not) They will go even to great lengths to make European founders register as LLC's in Murica too, Investors security yadda yadda I don't see how that translates to doing business in europe tbh
- pacifika 3y ago
- tough 3y agoYou can also actually just ask dang for it via email, and if you've good reasons for it they will remove it.
- petemir 3y agoWhy should you have a good reason? It's your data, fullstop.
- tough 3y agoBecause there's no automated system, (and I guess, since there's not lots of requests, no need for it) And so for you to want to utilise a finite resource (moderation time) for something that should benefit you, you better have a good reason for it? Why should companies go above and beyond to comply with laws that don't affect their country or business doings? The only reason a US company might comply with EU directives, is if they plan to do business in the EU, not if they're storing data or not from an European citizen
- adql 3y agoThe content generated by you benefits the site tho
- codetrotter 3y agoWhy leave HN though? It’s nice here
- jacquesm 3y agoIt is. But it also eats up time, and that's your most finite resource.
- coldtea 3y agoRelaxation and contentment (times when you don't feel the urge to be productive) is actually the most finite resource.
- jacquesm 3y agoThat's a fair point. Off to play the piano :) (thanks for the reminder)
- actionfromafar 3y agoChanged my password to a really long random string. Still, here I am with a new account…
- ycombinete 3y agoI've had this with other platforms before: - Change your account email. - Change HN password with password generator (don't' record it) - Log out. The account and info are still there, but at least you can't get in! Obviously if they later introduce account deletion you've retroactively made a small mistake.