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This is the problem with the so-called "multipolar world". There aren't any other democratic poles. So - if you're a dissident or a whistleblower and you're too
by zirgs 3y ago
This is the problem with the so-called "multipolar world". There aren't any other democratic poles. So - if you're a dissident or a whistleblower and you're too high-profile - you have nowhwere to go.
Snowden has to live in Russia, because pretty much all Western countries would put him on the first plane to the USA if he ever tried to enter.
My country extradites even our own citizens to the USA.
- sealeck 3y agoAnd then you get countries like France where they refuse to extradite probable child sex offenders.
- abwizz 3y agoeverybody is a "probable child sex offender", so there is no ground to extradite.
- anon____ 3y agoI think he meant convicted child rapists: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Polanski_sexual_abuse_case https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Polanski_sexual_abuse_ca....
- boondoggle16 3y ago[flagged]
- skissane 3y ago> so strange, that man isn't even french any more than harvey weinstein or jeffrey epstein Polanski was born in Paris; both Weinstein and Epstein were born in New York City.
- boondoggle16 3y agoThey're Jewish.
- skissane 3y agoA man who was born in France, who has lived there for the majority of his life, who married a French woman, whose children were born in France and grew up there, who has French citizenship - is French. The fact that he is also Jewish and Polish doesn’t make him not French. Whereas, a couple of Americans (who also happen to be Jewish), and who’ve never had any particular connection to France, are not French.
- boondoggle16 3y agoThat's what they keep telling me. But no one around me believes it.
- yownie 3y agothat would be more of a comment about who you choose to surround yourself with than any other factor. lie down with dogs wake up with fleas as the saying goes
- dang 3y agoCould you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.
- dang 3y ago"Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- soraminazuki 3y agoSnowden was stranded in Russia because his passport was revoked while he was headed towards South America.
- zirgs 3y agoHe got lucky. South America isn't safe for him either. Look what happened to Assange. The Ecuadorian government changed and they kicked him out of the embassy soon after that. He wasted all those years there for nothing.
- WeylandYutani 3y agoWell yeah superpowers can do whatever they want. To be fair to the US they don't push you out of a window. You get your day in court (although it may take several decades- see Guantanamo bay).
- ekianjo 3y agoWasted x years not being in prison?
- zirgs 3y agoHe basically imprisoned himself for all of those years. And what's worse - those years won't be subtracted from whatever sentence he's going to get. I don't understand what his long-term plan was.
- TremendousJudge 3y agoIf I had to choose between being stuck in an embassy and being in a US prison, I wouldn't think about it twice.
- zirgs 3y agoYeah, but without a proper exit plan - you're only delaying the inevitable. He has spent 7 years in the embassy and 4 years in an UK prison - and his trial hasn't even started yet. 11 years and counting - many murderers don't get that much.