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The judges son works for Microsoft. This is not only conflict of interest but corruption at its absolute core. I knew the FTC would lose this case. I am not sur

The judges son works for Microsoft. This is not only conflict of interest but corruption at its absolute core. I knew the FTC would lose this case. I am not surprised. It does not matter if the FTC had a case or not. I do not believe it received a fair trail.

doikor 3y ago
FTC knew the judges son works at Microsoft and this court/judge was pretty much their choice (Microsoft wanted a different judge in a different jurisdiction)
- tremorscript 3y ago
  Sorry https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/06/29/watchdog-group-calls-judge-recuse-ftc-microsoft-case/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/06/29/watchdog-... The FTC will never ask for a recursal. I know I would not. You cannot blatantly call a judge corrupt especially when you are a participant in that case. If you are in the judiciary, your standards must be higher. From the article:- “Nothing antagonizes a judge with whom you might have litigation in the future like calling them recklessly biased,” he said. “What are the odds that Judge Corley would recuse if she was already choosing to brazen her way through this apparent conflict of interest?”
  - johnnyanmac 3y ago
    >The FTC will never ask for a recursal. I know I would not. You cannot blatantly call a judge corrupt especially when you are a participant in that case. of course not. Law has much prettier words for that that the FTC could have used. The same words the article uses (they never use "corrupt" in the watchdog quotes). Besides, I agree with the professor's arguments: >“A rank-and-file employee at Microsoft would probably not have an interest that could be substantially affected by the outcome of this case. … She's right to look at [the fact that] the division that would be affected by the litigation is not where her son is employed,” he said. It's the equivalent of some Wal-Mart lawsuit where a judge's grandson is working part time at Wal-Mart.
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elefanten 3y ago
There are laws and case law that set standards of varying degrees of precedent that both parties and the judge need to form their arguments around. The losing side can appeal to other courts and, in this case, the FTC can continue their own internal trial that has been scheduled for over a year and a half (surely, purely coincidentally scheduled for a month after the deal would contractually fall through). The same FTC that was extensively prepped and assisted in this trial by Sony and Google. The same Sony that has European Playstation headquarters in the UK, where it employs a lot of locals and where it announced a new modern office build shortly before the UK’s CMA announced it would block the Microsoft deal. All of the above whom own plenty of index funds that include copious amounts of Microsoft stock. Go searching for connections and you’ll find them every which way. I suppose we should declare everything illegitimate and corrupt, go back to atomized subsistence farming.
- tremorscript 3y ago
  Im sorry. Lets not generalize the problem, lets be specific to this case. Your son is working for Microsoft, it is a billion dollar case, the question is What would you do? What are your standards?
  - stOneskull 3y ago
    blood is thicker after all..
  - Jare 3y ago
    If their son works for Microsoft in a position unrelated to this deal, there's absolutely no conflict of interest unless you actually prove real attempts to influence the resolution.
    - hnfong 3y ago
      Do you have a reference (case law, practice directions, code of conduct, legislation, etc.) for your assertion, or are you just pulling that from your ___ ?
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Pigalowda 3y ago
“Corruption at its absolute core”? That’s so absurdly hyperbolic. This merger is fine - that’s how I knew the FTC would lose this case.

doikor 3y ago

FTC knew the judges son works at Microsoft and this court/judge was pretty much their choice (Microsoft wanted a different judge in a different jurisdiction)

tremorscript 3y ago
Sorry https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/06/29/watchdog-group-calls-judge-recuse-ftc-microsoft-case/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/06/29/watchdog-... The FTC will never ask for a recursal. I know I would not. You cannot blatantly call a judge corrupt especially when you are a participant in that case. If you are in the judiciary, your standards must be higher. From the article:- “Nothing antagonizes a judge with whom you might have litigation in the future like calling them recklessly biased,” he said. “What are the odds that Judge Corley would recuse if she was already choosing to brazen her way through this apparent conflict of interest?”
- johnnyanmac 3y ago
  >The FTC will never ask for a recursal. I know I would not. You cannot blatantly call a judge corrupt especially when you are a participant in that case. of course not. Law has much prettier words for that that the FTC could have used. The same words the article uses (they never use "corrupt" in the watchdog quotes). Besides, I agree with the professor's arguments: >“A rank-and-file employee at Microsoft would probably not have an interest that could be substantially affected by the outcome of this case. … She's right to look at [the fact that] the division that would be affected by the litigation is not where her son is employed,” he said. It's the equivalent of some Wal-Mart lawsuit where a judge's grandson is working part time at Wal-Mart.
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elefanten 3y ago

There are laws and case law that set standards of varying degrees of precedent that both parties and the judge need to form their arguments around. The losing side can appeal to other courts and, in this case, the FTC can continue their own internal trial that has been scheduled for over a year and a half (surely, purely coincidentally scheduled for a month after the deal would contractually fall through). The same FTC that was extensively prepped and assisted in this trial by Sony and Google. The same Sony that has European Playstation headquarters in the UK, where it employs a lot of locals and where it announced a new modern office build shortly before the UK’s CMA announced it would block the Microsoft deal. All of the above whom own plenty of index funds that include copious amounts of Microsoft stock. Go searching for connections and you’ll find them every which way. I suppose we should declare everything illegitimate and corrupt, go back to atomized subsistence farming.

tremorscript 3y ago
Im sorry. Lets not generalize the problem, lets be specific to this case. Your son is working for Microsoft, it is a billion dollar case, the question is What would you do? What are your standards?
- stOneskull 3y ago
  blood is thicker after all..
- Jare 3y ago
  If their son works for Microsoft in a position unrelated to this deal, there's absolutely no conflict of interest unless you actually prove real attempts to influence the resolution.
  - hnfong 3y ago
    Do you have a reference (case law, practice directions, code of conduct, legislation, etc.) for your assertion, or are you just pulling that from your ___ ?
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Pigalowda 3y ago

“Corruption at its absolute core”? That’s so absurdly hyperbolic. This merger is fine - that’s how I knew the FTC would lose this case.