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>This kind of taking pride in ignorance just infuriates me to no end. Yes, it's absolutely infuriating that a musician/pop star (read: a career that doesn't in

>This kind of taking pride in ignorance just infuriates me to no end. Yes, it's absolutely infuriating that a musician/pop star (read: a career that doesn't involve software) doesn't really know much about spreadsheet software that was used for a quarter of a second on a device, which was essentially just a prop, that has been out of date for decades. /s Yikes, bud. I don't really know what else to say; maybe go for a walk if this sorta thing really chaps your rump that much?

junon 3y ago
I can't imagine that was even on the screen at the time. In all likelihood she was holding up a device that was fully fake and they CGIed it in there.
- uxp100 3y ago
  I kinda doubt it, for two reasons: that’s more work than just opening a preinstalled program and typing, and if it was cgi, I would expect something whipped together in photoshop and after effects or whatever, and not a real program. My third reason is a little weaker: doesn’t look like it to me.
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- Gordonjcp 3y ago
  Why would they go to all the effort of making a fake phone and then CGIing in the details, when a device that looked and worked exactly as shown in the video existed in real life?
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lexandstuff 3y ago
OP has a point, though. She might be a talented pop star, but surely she has encountered spreadsheets at some point in her life? For example: checking over notes from her accountant, planning tours, purchasing houses, reviewing marketing plans for album launches, etc. Also, does not knowing about Excel also imply that she's never heard of Microsoft Word? That seems too farfetched.
- jjulius 3y ago
  >She might be a talented pop star, but surely she has encountered spreadsheets at some point in her life? For example: checking over notes from her accountant, planning tours, purchasing houses, reviewing marketing plans for album launches, etc. Put together by other people who work for her. All she likely has to do is glance at it for a second and move on. She might have seen those spreadsheets, but she doesn't have to know that it's 'Microsoft Excel' nor how they function. And when you're at the level she is (or was) at, I'd even argue that you have less exposure than a glance when it comes to that stuff - your team will brief you and not necessarily bother showing it to you. >Also, does not knowing about Excel also imply that she's never heard of Microsoft Word? That seems too farfetched. This is where HN often falters - assuming average Joes/Janes or people not in tech know more about tech than they actually do. I'd wager that you'd be surprised at the number of people who don't know what Microsoft Word/Excel are.
  - Gordonjcp 3y ago
    > I'd wager that you'd be surprised at the number of people who don't know what Microsoft Word/Excel are. Presumably, anyone who has never had any kind of a job in any field ever, or been to any kind of school.
    - jjulius 3y ago
      >Presumably, anyone who has never had any kind of job in any field ever... You do know that there are tons of jobs that don't ever require interacting with spreadsheets, let alone a computer, right? This is exactly what I was talking about regarding how many HN users view the rest of the world. >... or been to any kind of school. "When am I going to need to use this?" is a common refrain for more than just attitudes towards math. I have met many people in professional environments who have no experience with it and don't even know what it is until you explicitly remind them what it is/does.
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junon 3y ago

I can't imagine that was even on the screen at the time. In all likelihood she was holding up a device that was fully fake and they CGIed it in there.

uxp100 3y ago
I kinda doubt it, for two reasons: that’s more work than just opening a preinstalled program and typing, and if it was cgi, I would expect something whipped together in photoshop and after effects or whatever, and not a real program. My third reason is a little weaker: doesn’t look like it to me.
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Gordonjcp 3y ago
Why would they go to all the effort of making a fake phone and then CGIing in the details, when a device that looked and worked exactly as shown in the video existed in real life?
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lexandstuff 3y ago

OP has a point, though. She might be a talented pop star, but surely she has encountered spreadsheets at some point in her life? For example: checking over notes from her accountant, planning tours, purchasing houses, reviewing marketing plans for album launches, etc. Also, does not knowing about Excel also imply that she's never heard of Microsoft Word? That seems too farfetched.

jjulius 3y ago
>She might be a talented pop star, but surely she has encountered spreadsheets at some point in her life? For example: checking over notes from her accountant, planning tours, purchasing houses, reviewing marketing plans for album launches, etc. Put together by other people who work for her. All she likely has to do is glance at it for a second and move on. She might have seen those spreadsheets, but she doesn't have to know that it's 'Microsoft Excel' nor how they function. And when you're at the level she is (or was) at, I'd even argue that you have less exposure than a glance when it comes to that stuff - your team will brief you and not necessarily bother showing it to you. >Also, does not knowing about Excel also imply that she's never heard of Microsoft Word? That seems too farfetched. This is where HN often falters - assuming average Joes/Janes or people not in tech know more about tech than they actually do. I'd wager that you'd be surprised at the number of people who don't know what Microsoft Word/Excel are.
- Gordonjcp 3y ago
  > I'd wager that you'd be surprised at the number of people who don't know what Microsoft Word/Excel are. Presumably, anyone who has never had any kind of a job in any field ever, or been to any kind of school.
  - jjulius 3y ago
    >Presumably, anyone who has never had any kind of job in any field ever... You do know that there are tons of jobs that don't ever require interacting with spreadsheets, let alone a computer, right? This is exactly what I was talking about regarding how many HN users view the rest of the world. >... or been to any kind of school. "When am I going to need to use this?" is a common refrain for more than just attitudes towards math. I have met many people in professional environments who have no experience with it and don't even know what it is until you explicitly remind them what it is/does.

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