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I'm not going to watch this entire video. I just want to ask, what the fuck is going on with those disgusting body horror ads we see all over the internet? Clos

I'm not going to watch this entire video. I just want to ask, what the fuck is going on with those disgusting body horror ads we see all over the internet? Close ups of pimples and wounds and bizzare diagrams of human anatomy that all appear designed specifically to draw the eye (at any cost) but personally just repulse me. There's a whole cross section of websites I won't visit, including some major news sites, because apparently the best they can attract are these garbage advertisers.

carabiner 3y ago
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2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago
I've seen those before but haven't in awhile. I assume they are eye-catching. Holes in hand, hand pulling wet cloth, jellyfish on hand, spider, hair, etc.
ruined 3y ago
wow i'm so glad i never look at ads
lr4444lr 3y ago
I think the term is "chumbox". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chumbox https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chumbox (I.e., the icky health ads are a major category of it.) https://www.fastcompany.com/90843502/the-chumbox-is-still-the-dirty-design-secret-of-the-internet https://www.fastcompany.com/90843502/the-chumbox-is-still-th...
- alasarmas 3y ago
  The original(?) article on chumboxes is still the best: https://www.theawl.com/2015/06/a-complete-taxonomy-of-internet-chum/ https://www.theawl.com/2015/06/a-complete-taxonomy-of-intern...
soared 3y ago
Super low cost ads that lead to super low cost horrible clickbait content. You can blame companies like outbrain and taboola for purposefully having horrible advertiser quality standards, and websites who are willing to have that junk on their site. The cycle repeats endlessly, as the horrible sites have.. horrible ads.
- kelvinjps10 3y ago
  I remenber windows putting those kind of ads on windows amd edge
AndrewKemendo 3y ago
Worse are the body shaming ad/games I have done a reasonable job at fooling Instagram to the extent where they think I'm a woman and I see horrifying ads all the time like the following: https://twitter.com/AndrewKemendo/status/1676597672667381773 https://twitter.com/AndrewKemendo/status/1676597672667381773 I looked further and the key thing that viewers are doing (based on 600k app store reviews which seem to be mostly real) is trying to "give the girl a chance for once" "help her cause nobody else is" etc... https://twitter.com/AndrewKemendo/status/1676631706818805771 https://twitter.com/AndrewKemendo/status/1676631706818805771 There are software engineers and designers working full time making this stuff and they should be horrified.
- _yb2s 3y ago
  That is horrifying
  - SV_BubbleTime 3y ago
    That little animation at the end, was there a panel of her going to a gynecologist and a green mist coming from her? The older I get, the more I can see what Ayn Rand was getting at.
    - AndrewKemendo 3y ago
      Please resist the urge to go that direction with it Genuinely, and I’m horrified of all of this, but it’s really something we can change, it’s not hopeless don’t give up humanity.
      - SV_BubbleTime 3y ago
        I don’t think Ayn Rand gave up on humanity at all. Just the worthless nonsense and the people endlessly consume it.
        AndyMcConachie 3y ago
celestialcheese 3y ago
Usually those types of display ads show up when targeting isn't possible, or your anonymized such that the CPMs for your session are low enough that it's cheap enough for these types of ads to make money. There are really only 3 buyers of banner/display ads when no targeting is available: 1) Huge multinationals - think geico, coke, etc. Broad awareness campaigns 2) Scams, body horror, YMYL, click-trick, etc. This is what you're seeing. Info products, garbage cosmetics and scam courses have such huge margins that they can spend on broad-targeted placements for very cheap CPMs, with aggressive creatives that are A/B tested to death to get people to click. As long as the CPM is cheap, and the CTRs are high enough, the numbers work. 3) "Inexperienced" ad buyers I'm not commenting or interested in debating the ethics of tracking and the internet data economy, but a side effect of removing 3rd party targeting is that as attribution goes away, buyers of ads pay less since they can't attribute dollars to campaigns, so you have to move to attribution methods more common in radio and TV. And as costs fall, it gives opportunities to the slimey shit you've been seeing.
themitigating 3y ago
Isn't there a popular fetish of watching procedures to remove pimples and other skin growths?
midoridensha 3y ago
Why aren't you using an ad-blocker?
- carlosjobim 3y ago
  You can't block Facebook and Instagram ads.
  - midoridensha 3y ago
    You can't? The rare times I look on Facebook, I don't see any ads.
    - carlosjobim 3y ago
      Please let me know what's your setup. On macOS and iOS, those are the only two that are defeating all my ad-blockers.
      - midoridensha 3y ago
        Linux/Firefox/uBlock Origin (I don't use FB on my phone, but I had to I'd use Firefox Nightly/uBO, but I haven't tried it)
- standardUser 3y ago
  Because many sites force you to disable it.
akkartik 3y ago
I'm gonna join the 2 other commenters to say: stop using Google Chrome.
carlosjobim 3y ago
Yes, what the fuck!? Facebook has started to show this filth in their shorts, that are un-blockable. I have to access Facebook for work and this is just repulsive. I guess if anybody still had any doubt wether the people at Facebook were degenerated perverts, at least there is no such doubt anymore.
jeroenhd 3y ago
These companies want clicks and views. They used to lure you in with curiosity, then with distracting colours and animations, and now with other emotions. Outrage ads and disgust ads get clicks. Any strong emotion that will get your eye drawn to their crap is worth exploiting. They're also experts at using psychological warfare like well-positioned faces and expressions to trick your eyes into looking at their general area. That's why every clickbait thumbnail has some form of a face with an extreme expression in it. Adblockers are the only solution. Whether you go with uBlock or AdNauseam, the only way to make this stuff go away is to make their business model unviable.
SideburnsOfDoom 3y ago
> what the f is going on with those disgusting ads we see all over the internet? "we see" ? Who is "we" ? Your feed is not my feed, and I don't know what you're talking about. What's up is an algorithm is taking a guess at what engages _you_. It may be failing badly. Although, you noticed enough to comment, and that's engagement! Rage clicks are still clicks. Understand that and you're closer to knowing what's wrong with all VC-funded social media. But it's not what "we" see. Ad-wise, there is no such thing.
- rightbyte 3y ago
  When I used Facebook I was spammed these "people falling and hurt themself" or car accident videos. I hate those videos but I got more and more. I think it was because I stopped scrolling and tried to figure out what user was posting those to mute them which the algorithm maybe counted as "engagement". Or maybe I was more likely to stop scroll the feed and switch tab when those came up, which maybe also counted as engagement. Etc. I don't think the algorithm can distinguish like and distaste that good.
  - SideburnsOfDoom 3y ago
    > I don't think the algorithm can distinguish like and distaste that good. Nope, it can not distinguish. It can measure how long you viewed, but not emotional state, It's all "engagement".

carabiner 3y ago

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2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago

I've seen those before but haven't in awhile. I assume they are eye-catching. Holes in hand, hand pulling wet cloth, jellyfish on hand, spider, hair, etc.

ruined 3y ago

wow i'm so glad i never look at ads

lr4444lr 3y ago

I think the term is "chumbox". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chumbox https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chumbox (I.e., the icky health ads are a major category of it.) https://www.fastcompany.com/90843502/the-chumbox-is-still-the-dirty-design-secret-of-the-internet https://www.fastcompany.com/90843502/the-chumbox-is-still-th...

alasarmas 3y ago
The original(?) article on chumboxes is still the best: https://www.theawl.com/2015/06/a-complete-taxonomy-of-internet-chum/ https://www.theawl.com/2015/06/a-complete-taxonomy-of-intern...

soared 3y ago

Super low cost ads that lead to super low cost horrible clickbait content. You can blame companies like outbrain and taboola for purposefully having horrible advertiser quality standards, and websites who are willing to have that junk on their site. The cycle repeats endlessly, as the horrible sites have.. horrible ads.

kelvinjps10 3y ago
I remenber windows putting those kind of ads on windows amd edge

AndrewKemendo 3y ago

Worse are the body shaming ad/games I have done a reasonable job at fooling Instagram to the extent where they think I'm a woman and I see horrifying ads all the time like the following: https://twitter.com/AndrewKemendo/status/1676597672667381773 https://twitter.com/AndrewKemendo/status/1676597672667381773 I looked further and the key thing that viewers are doing (based on 600k app store reviews which seem to be mostly real) is trying to "give the girl a chance for once" "help her cause nobody else is" etc... https://twitter.com/AndrewKemendo/status/1676631706818805771 https://twitter.com/AndrewKemendo/status/1676631706818805771 There are software engineers and designers working full time making this stuff and they should be horrified.

_yb2s 3y ago
That is horrifying
- SV_BubbleTime 3y ago
  That little animation at the end, was there a panel of her going to a gynecologist and a green mist coming from her? The older I get, the more I can see what Ayn Rand was getting at.
  - AndrewKemendo 3y ago
    Please resist the urge to go that direction with it Genuinely, and I’m horrified of all of this, but it’s really something we can change, it’s not hopeless don’t give up humanity.
    - SV_BubbleTime 3y ago
      I don’t think Ayn Rand gave up on humanity at all. Just the worthless nonsense and the people endlessly consume it.
      - AndyMcConachie 3y ago

celestialcheese 3y ago

Usually those types of display ads show up when targeting isn't possible, or your anonymized such that the CPMs for your session are low enough that it's cheap enough for these types of ads to make money. There are really only 3 buyers of banner/display ads when no targeting is available: 1) Huge multinationals - think geico, coke, etc. Broad awareness campaigns 2) Scams, body horror, YMYL, click-trick, etc. This is what you're seeing. Info products, garbage cosmetics and scam courses have such huge margins that they can spend on broad-targeted placements for very cheap CPMs, with aggressive creatives that are A/B tested to death to get people to click. As long as the CPM is cheap, and the CTRs are high enough, the numbers work. 3) "Inexperienced" ad buyers I'm not commenting or interested in debating the ethics of tracking and the internet data economy, but a side effect of removing 3rd party targeting is that as attribution goes away, buyers of ads pay less since they can't attribute dollars to campaigns, so you have to move to attribution methods more common in radio and TV. And as costs fall, it gives opportunities to the slimey shit you've been seeing.

themitigating 3y ago

Isn't there a popular fetish of watching procedures to remove pimples and other skin growths?

midoridensha 3y ago

Why aren't you using an ad-blocker?

carlosjobim 3y ago
You can't block Facebook and Instagram ads.
- midoridensha 3y ago
  You can't? The rare times I look on Facebook, I don't see any ads.
  - carlosjobim 3y ago
    Please let me know what's your setup. On macOS and iOS, those are the only two that are defeating all my ad-blockers.
    - midoridensha 3y ago
      Linux/Firefox/uBlock Origin (I don't use FB on my phone, but I had to I'd use Firefox Nightly/uBO, but I haven't tried it)
standardUser 3y ago
Because many sites force you to disable it.

akkartik 3y ago

I'm gonna join the 2 other commenters to say: stop using Google Chrome.

carlosjobim 3y ago

Yes, what the fuck!? Facebook has started to show this filth in their shorts, that are un-blockable. I have to access Facebook for work and this is just repulsive. I guess if anybody still had any doubt wether the people at Facebook were degenerated perverts, at least there is no such doubt anymore.

jeroenhd 3y ago

These companies want clicks and views. They used to lure you in with curiosity, then with distracting colours and animations, and now with other emotions. Outrage ads and disgust ads get clicks. Any strong emotion that will get your eye drawn to their crap is worth exploiting. They're also experts at using psychological warfare like well-positioned faces and expressions to trick your eyes into looking at their general area. That's why every clickbait thumbnail has some form of a face with an extreme expression in it. Adblockers are the only solution. Whether you go with uBlock or AdNauseam, the only way to make this stuff go away is to make their business model unviable.

SideburnsOfDoom 3y ago

> what the f is going on with those disgusting ads we see all over the internet? "we see" ? Who is "we" ? Your feed is not my feed, and I don't know what you're talking about. What's up is an algorithm is taking a guess at what engages _you_. It may be failing badly. Although, you noticed enough to comment, and that's engagement! Rage clicks are still clicks. Understand that and you're closer to knowing what's wrong with all VC-funded social media. But it's not what "we" see. Ad-wise, there is no such thing.

rightbyte 3y ago
When I used Facebook I was spammed these "people falling and hurt themself" or car accident videos. I hate those videos but I got more and more. I think it was because I stopped scrolling and tried to figure out what user was posting those to mute them which the algorithm maybe counted as "engagement". Or maybe I was more likely to stop scroll the feed and switch tab when those came up, which maybe also counted as engagement. Etc. I don't think the algorithm can distinguish like and distaste that good.
- SideburnsOfDoom 3y ago
  > I don't think the algorithm can distinguish like and distaste that good. Nope, it can not distinguish. It can measure how long you viewed, but not emotional state, It's all "engagement".