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Amazing Idea, but a few problems 1. Anytime you give someone freedom to create (anything), you will end up with a penis drawing. Just scrolling through quickly
by jacurtis 3y ago
Amazing Idea, but a few problems
1. Anytime you give someone freedom to create (anything), you will end up with a penis drawing. Just scrolling through quickly I see that Frame #13122 delivers on this law of the universe. After watching the movie preview, I only watched the first 45-50 seconds and counted about 4-5 drawings of the bodypart and 6-8 additional frames that just contain the word "penis". I wouldn't be surprised if 2-4% of the total frames submitted contain this specific content.
2. It says that all frames have been drawn, but in fact they are far from complete. Many people have submitted blank frames or frames with one line scribble. There really should be a minimum "ink" or "coverage" amount before determining that a frame has been given a proper amount of effort in the drawing.
3. People have wildly different artistic capabilities. Which sounds like part of the fun, but in practice many of these frames are so bad, that watching them back to back just looks like a static mess.
4. Not a problem, but there are also some AMAZING submissions in here that are awesome to see. I wish those people could be allowed to submit additional frames. Maybe enough "upvotes" on their existing frames and they get to create another frame.
5. We need to crowdsource a review process. It would be good to allow people to either A) draw a frame, which is a smaller portion of the population or B) review an existing frame for content and quality. This allows everyone to contribute to the movie in a way that they are capable. Reviewers could be shown a frame with a few buttons such as: blank, low effort drawing, inaccurate drawing, inappropriate drawing (see #1). If a frame gets a high ratio of similar negative reviews then we know to put it back into the rotation to be redrawn.
5. Just because all frames have been drawn, there should be the option to resubmit an alternative for low-effort or blank frames. These are easy to find, so I should be able to submit a second drawing that gets queued behind the original in case the original gets rejected through the review system (which a blank frame easily would).
Overall the concept is really cool. These tips above would solve most of the core problems and make it a better experience for everyone.
- meragrin_ 3y agoHow about just have multiple people draw a single frame, average it out, if it still is significantly different from the 2 prior and 2 subsequent frames, throw it out and have it drawn again?
- civilitty 3y ago> 1. Anytime you give someone freedom to create (anything), you will end up with a penis drawing. Just scrolling through quickly I see that Frame #13122 delivers on this law of the universe. After watching the movie preview, I only watched the first 45-50 seconds and counted about 4-5 drawings of the bodypart and 6-8 additional frames that just contain the word "penis". I wouldn't be surprised if 2-4% of the total frames submitted contain this specific content. Are there any YC startups specializing in detecting penises? They can probably help.
- excalibur 3y agoNot sure whether you were specifically referencing it, but this was made for an episode of Silicon Valley, and is also a real, functional app. On the show, it was originally created for detecting hot dogs, but found a second (and far more lucrative) life as a penis detector. https://www.engadget.com/2017-05-15-not-hotdog-app-hbo-silicon-valley.html https://www.engadget.com/2017-05-15-not-hotdog-app-hbo-silic... More technical discussion here: https://medium.com/@timanglade/how-hbos-silicon-valley-built-not-hotdog-with-mobile-tensorflow-keras-react-native-ef03260747f3 https://medium.com/@timanglade/how-hbos-silicon-valley-built...
- qingcharles 3y agoI don't even know if external links to Twitter work any longer, but Elon claims that Twitter has a "dick pic bot": (maybe joking?) https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1678143935976464384?s=20 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1678143935976464384?s=20
- foundthissite 3y ago[dead]
- nickpeterson 3y agoHe would be pretty aware since he’s always engaged in a dick measuring contest.
- chaxor 3y agohttps://github.com/ccaldarella99/hotdog_not_hotdog https://github.com/ccaldarella99/hotdog_not_hotdog
- luispauloml 3y ago> There really should be a minimum "ink" or "coverage" amount before determining that a frame has been given a proper amount of effort in the drawing. I know what you mean and I agree, but your example of measuring ink usage reminds me of measuring a programmer's productivity by counting the number of lines of code they've written. What would be the equivalent of deleting lines, though?
- koliber 3y agoWhile lines of code is not a good way to measure productivity, it is not useless. I’ve used it to uncover situations where people were struggling with work. It’s a heuristic which can be used to draw your attention to areas which could be problematic. Ink coverage could be used the same way here.
- bbstats 3y agoThese are not problems.
- SanderNL 3y agoI agree. While commendable, OP complicates matters greatly by declaring war on indecency and incompetence. What’s wrong with penises and bad drawings?
- simultsop 3y agoI guess penises do not belong to the movie being drawn.
- noduerme 3y agoSeriously. People spend thousands to travel to Pompeii and walk through tittering about how naughty the Romans were. It's not as if those Romans were any different from the guy drawing dicks on a blank webpage. And if 2 measly millennia is all it takes to confer archaeological significance on phallic graffiti, why not just get ahead of the herd, take the long view (so to speak), and appreciate your own culture in all its messy future significance in the here and now?
- bryanrasmussen 3y agoby allowing penis drawings it pulls any artwork generated to be penis focused. Crowdsourced art suffers if it can only ever be about the penis is mightier than the sword. Bad drawings likewise limit the aesthetic of what is possible.
- vhlhvjcov 3y ago> by allowing penis drawings it pulls any artwork generated to be penis focused As demonstrated by this conversation, Q.E.D > Bad drawings likewise limit the aesthetic of what is possible Are we to reason about aesthetics?
- maushu 3y agoWell, the problem is some of those aren't even drawings. Some minimum effort should be made even if you don't want to trace the frame.
- Conscat 3y agoFrom now on I'm calling this Jacurtis' Law
- sigg3 3y ago2-4% of unreviewed content shall be phallic..?
- lancesells 3y agoIt even applies to the Blue Origin rocket.
- tibbydudeza 3y agoGood one - the law of unintended peny.
- uyfyxr8 3y agoSuch cool inputs to the product. Are you a product manager in the drawing app like Photoshop or Procreate?
- Geezus_42 3y ago8----->
- eurticket 3y agoI think a solution could be everyone votes for the best frames. Then those artists are called back to work on the frames people made bad.
- jerojero 3y agoYep! You need a kind of review process and some incentives. Not that difficult to implement. You give several people the same frame to draw, then you just have everyone pick their favourite. The one with the least votes can be temporarily shadow banned from their next drawing appearing as an option. Alternatively, you can reward the one with the most votes. But honestly, maybe just allowing people to choose the frame they like might be enough and you don't even need to do much more.
- lambic 3y agoIsn't this basically how we got Boaty McBoatface?
- have_faith 3y agoAll of these will likely be solved by manually flicking through and re-adding bad frames to the drawing queue.
- ranting-moth 3y agoCan you link to the frame? I can't see the option to view a specific frame.
- ta1243 3y ago> Anytime you give someone freedom to create (anything), you will end up with a penis drawing Well yes https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/giant-penis-coronation-party/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/giant-penis-coronation-par...
- FireInsight 3y agoA great solution would be one where maybe after drawing a frame one could choose between two frames of the movie that which one better represents the original / is better or funnier in their mind.