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Individual action won't change anything, stop making your life worse for no reason or benefit.

by jacooper 3y ago

Fricken 3y ago
I would regard myself a coward if I took your position. It would not make my life better.
- jacooper 3y ago
  Coward for saying the truth? Things that actually affect climate change come from policy, not individual action. And that policy should actually target meaningful things, not making flights more expensive or even worse, limiting farming, like some countries are doing, while still using coal in the power grid. Unfortunately many politicians just target the most visible thing, making people's life more inconvenient while there are actually better ways to stop climate change without affecting citizens daily life.
  - Fricken 3y ago
    I live in a democracy, where individuals vote against any party willing to implement real climate policy. The same individuals vote with their wallets, and give tens of thousands of dollars a year to the fossil fuel industry.
    - jacooper 3y ago
      Well, tough luck then, your individual actions aren't going to change that.
epolanski 3y ago
I don't think I'm making my life any worse, it makes me sleep well and I feel like it also sets good examples for my family and friends. I can see changes and small impacts of my actions. But then I think about stuff like the gas pipe that was blown off in northern europe's seas one year ago and it put so much methane every second to offset any positive impact I can have. I swear climate thing is depressing, you feel like you have much less impact than on national elections with one vote.
- jacooper 3y ago
  > I swear climate thing is depressing, you feel like you have much less impact than on national elections with one vote. And that's why you don't shape your life around it. Your actions aren't going to change anything meaningful, oh you traveled by train instead of an airplane? Guess what? it's flying anyway, you just took the longer route for no reason. And so on and so fourth. I'm not a climate denialist, I just know that making my life inconvenient isn't going to help.

Individual action won't change anything, stop making your life worse for no reason or benefit.

Fricken 3y ago

I would regard myself a coward if I took your position. It would not make my life better.

jacooper 3y ago
Coward for saying the truth? Things that actually affect climate change come from policy, not individual action. And that policy should actually target meaningful things, not making flights more expensive or even worse, limiting farming, like some countries are doing, while still using coal in the power grid. Unfortunately many politicians just target the most visible thing, making people's life more inconvenient while there are actually better ways to stop climate change without affecting citizens daily life.
- Fricken 3y ago
  I live in a democracy, where individuals vote against any party willing to implement real climate policy. The same individuals vote with their wallets, and give tens of thousands of dollars a year to the fossil fuel industry.
  - jacooper 3y ago
    Well, tough luck then, your individual actions aren't going to change that.

epolanski 3y ago

I don't think I'm making my life any worse, it makes me sleep well and I feel like it also sets good examples for my family and friends. I can see changes and small impacts of my actions. But then I think about stuff like the gas pipe that was blown off in northern europe's seas one year ago and it put so much methane every second to offset any positive impact I can have. I swear climate thing is depressing, you feel like you have much less impact than on national elections with one vote.

jacooper 3y ago
> I swear climate thing is depressing, you feel like you have much less impact than on national elections with one vote. And that's why you don't shape your life around it. Your actions aren't going to change anything meaningful, oh you traveled by train instead of an airplane? Guess what? it's flying anyway, you just took the longer route for no reason. And so on and so fourth. I'm not a climate denialist, I just know that making my life inconvenient isn't going to help.