I think what's sad is that out of this project eventually was born a pedagogical program within the physics department to innovate teaching and learning at Geor

I think what's sad is that out of this project eventually was born a pedagogical program within the physics department to innovate teaching and learning at Georgia state. However every person they hired to do it was unable to get tenure because of one reason or another. The only one to push forward was Brian Thoms who gave up his research to devote his full-time attention to teaching and learning. But now he's retiring. I did my masters at gsu more then ten years ago. There were many younger professors who loved to teach and cared a lot about their students. But most of the older ones prevented them from discussing it openly and changing how teaching was done.