> Well we don’t know how many people falsify data because, if it goes undiscovered, we don’t know it happened. It could easily be that the rate at which data is

> Well we don’t know how many people falsify data because, if it goes undiscovered, we don’t know it happened. It could easily be that the rate at which data is falsified is quite low and we are good at catching it, or it is high and we are bad at catching it. Yes, which is why I said the frequency of discovery is low. Seeing a story in the paper about fraud every day doesn't really tell us anything about the rate of fraudulence, which I was hoping would become transparent with my point.