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Well, I assume now that the EU DMA is a thing, Facebook would reconsider distributing their actually malware laden binaries (instead of simple ads/analytics) th

Well, I assume now that the EU DMA is a thing, Facebook would reconsider distributing their actually malware laden binaries (instead of simple ads/analytics) through their own app store. There was a similar incident[1] (for which I can't unfortunately locate the original source) where Uber tried embedding an exploit to retrieve IMEI numbers without consent, which was caught by Apple's review process. So while there may be some legitimate complaints, the review process does keep the worst behavior out of their curated app store. [1] https://youtu.be/KAsKPwfkiDw?t=433 https://youtu.be/KAsKPwfkiDw?t=433

bmarquez 3y ago
Just because Facebook may potentially create their own app store doesn't mean others are going to use it. Even on Android, sideloading is fraught with warnings that the average older Facebook user might not figure it out. Personally I'm looking forward to easier iOS sideloading, even if regulation was required to achieve it. Devices should be secure by design against malware, not by curation.
- EMIRELADERO 3y ago
  > Even on Android, sideloading is fraught with warnings that the average older Facebook user might not figure it out. This is now also forbidden by the DMA. > 3. The gatekeeper shall ensure that the obligations of Articles 5, 6 and 7 are fully and effectively complied with. > 4. The gatekeeper shall not engage in any behaviour that undermines effective compliance with the obligations of Articles 5, 6 and 7 regardless of whether that behaviour is of a contractual, commercial or technical nature, or of any other nature, or consists in the use of behavioural techniques or interface design. > 6. The gatekeeper shall not degrade the conditions or quality of any of the core platform services provided to business users or end users who avail themselves of the rights or choices laid down in Articles 5, 6 and 7, or make the exercise of those rights or choices unduly difficult, including by offering choices to the end-user in a non-neutral manner, or by subverting end users’ or business users' autonomy, decision-making, or free choice via the structure, design, function or manner of operation of a user interface or a part thereof. > 7. Where the gatekeeper circumvents or attempts to circumvent any of the obligations in Article 5, 6, or 7 in a manner described in paragraphs 4, 5 and 6 of this Article, the Commission may open proceedings pursuant to Article 20 and adopt an implementing act referred to in Article 8(2) in order to specify the measures that the gatekeeper is to implement.
dietr1ch 3y ago
Can you ship apps by region and have an EU-specific app once you paid enough fines?

bmarquez 3y ago

Just because Facebook may potentially create their own app store doesn't mean others are going to use it. Even on Android, sideloading is fraught with warnings that the average older Facebook user might not figure it out. Personally I'm looking forward to easier iOS sideloading, even if regulation was required to achieve it. Devices should be secure by design against malware, not by curation.

EMIRELADERO 3y ago
> Even on Android, sideloading is fraught with warnings that the average older Facebook user might not figure it out. This is now also forbidden by the DMA. > 3. The gatekeeper shall ensure that the obligations of Articles 5, 6 and 7 are fully and effectively complied with. > 4. The gatekeeper shall not engage in any behaviour that undermines effective compliance with the obligations of Articles 5, 6 and 7 regardless of whether that behaviour is of a contractual, commercial or technical nature, or of any other nature, or consists in the use of behavioural techniques or interface design. > 6. The gatekeeper shall not degrade the conditions or quality of any of the core platform services provided to business users or end users who avail themselves of the rights or choices laid down in Articles 5, 6 and 7, or make the exercise of those rights or choices unduly difficult, including by offering choices to the end-user in a non-neutral manner, or by subverting end users’ or business users' autonomy, decision-making, or free choice via the structure, design, function or manner of operation of a user interface or a part thereof. > 7. Where the gatekeeper circumvents or attempts to circumvent any of the obligations in Article 5, 6, or 7 in a manner described in paragraphs 4, 5 and 6 of this Article, the Commission may open proceedings pursuant to Article 20 and adopt an implementing act referred to in Article 8(2) in order to specify the measures that the gatekeeper is to implement.

dietr1ch 3y ago

Can you ship apps by region and have an EU-specific app once you paid enough fines?