2 ms·

Makes sense to move the windows if you close a laptop lid, but not if you turn off a monitor. You can't disconnect the laptop screen, but you can easily disconn

Makes sense to move the windows if you close a laptop lid, but not if you turn off a monitor. You can't disconnect the laptop screen, but you can easily disconnect the monitor. I have a cheap laptop that doesn't understand a turned-off monitor as unusable, and it's actually way nicer that way.

Aaargh20318 3y ago
Why is it nicer? What is the use case for having unreachable windows?
- hot_gril 3y ago
  Not having your windows get messed up when you turn the monitor on/off, which is especially relevant for TVs and projectors. On the flip side, what's the use case for connecting to a powered-off monitor and not using it? If I don't want to use a monitor, I won't connect it.
- Joker_vD 3y ago
  So that I don't see them while they still stay where they are! For example, preparing for a slide-show is one example: move PowerPoint to the second screen where it'd stay even if there is actually no second screen.
- Aaargh20318 3y ago
  But my windows aren't getting messed up, once I turn the monitor back on it restores the previous state. And the use case is simple: I have 2 monitors hooked up to my machine but I don't always need 2 monitors. I have a 34" 5k2k ultrawide and a 27" 4k in portrait mode. When I'm coding or using my computer for an extended amount of time I turn both on, but when I just want to quickly write an e-mail I only turn on the main monitor. I mostly use the ultrawide and have the portrait monitor to the side to dump documentation and other materials I need for quick reference on. Right now it's 29ºC in my room and I don't want to turn on more equipment than needed.
  - hot_gril 3y ago
    This seems like a very specific situation, and you could disconnect the second monitor for it. Not sure about the reliability of window restoration. It's at least better in the latest macOS than in older versions.
    - Aaargh20318 3y ago
      Dive under my desk and unplug the monitor from the Thunderbolt 4 hub or just press the power button.

Aaargh20318 3y ago

Why is it nicer? What is the use case for having unreachable windows?

hot_gril 3y ago
Not having your windows get messed up when you turn the monitor on/off, which is especially relevant for TVs and projectors. On the flip side, what's the use case for connecting to a powered-off monitor and not using it? If I don't want to use a monitor, I won't connect it.
Joker_vD 3y ago
So that I don't see them while they still stay where they are! For example, preparing for a slide-show is one example: move PowerPoint to the second screen where it'd stay even if there is actually no second screen.
Aaargh20318 3y ago
But my windows aren't getting messed up, once I turn the monitor back on it restores the previous state. And the use case is simple: I have 2 monitors hooked up to my machine but I don't always need 2 monitors. I have a 34" 5k2k ultrawide and a 27" 4k in portrait mode. When I'm coding or using my computer for an extended amount of time I turn both on, but when I just want to quickly write an e-mail I only turn on the main monitor. I mostly use the ultrawide and have the portrait monitor to the side to dump documentation and other materials I need for quick reference on. Right now it's 29ºC in my room and I don't want to turn on more equipment than needed.
- hot_gril 3y ago
  This seems like a very specific situation, and you could disconnect the second monitor for it. Not sure about the reliability of window restoration. It's at least better in the latest macOS than in older versions.
  - Aaargh20318 3y ago
    Dive under my desk and unplug the monitor from the Thunderbolt 4 hub or just press the power button.