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> You're conflating a communications channel with a new technology I'm really not. Do you genuinely think that the last half of your sentence only applies to L

by nawgz 3y ago

> You're conflating a communications channel with a new technology I'm really not. Do you genuinely think that the last half of your sentence only applies to LLMs? A "technology that enables abuse (as well as positive outcomes) at a previously-unimagined scale" is literally a perfect description of social media platforms. LLMs virtually don't move the needle, look at the amount of propaganda and bots already on the web today. I think that implying I am burying my head in the sand about LLMs by claiming they shouldn't be restricted to megacorps who already have demonstrated their willingness to engage in unethical activities at mass scale is fucking ridiculous too. But I do welcome your continued support of regulating AI in favor of corporations, it's a clear sign to never engage with you

pixl97 3y ago
> LLMs virtually don't move the needle, I'd say you'll be incorrect in the future. We'll have new abuses by both corporations and propaganda bots in the near future. More and more of us will find 'digital friends' that creep into our lives and talk to us on line, gain our trust, make us laugh, and tell us that 'unions are bad', or whatever the propaganda of the day is. But it's the one on one relationships with history that will make them different than the bots that came before.
- c_crank 3y ago
  >More and more of us will find 'digital friends' that creep into our lives and talk to us on line, gain our trust, make us laugh, and tell us that 'unions are bad', or whatever the propaganda of the day is. That would just mean automating the job of the secret police. And those guys have unions already!
- nawgz 3y ago
  > it's the one on one relationships with history that will make them different than the bots that came before Is this intentional ignorance? The reason I use Facebook as the analogy is because Facebook has an insane amount of your history, and isn't afraid to sell any single aspect of that to advertisers. The interface some chatbot-controlling megacorp would expose to propagandists would hardly be different, the history is unlikely to be much stronger, and the network effect seems hard to match. Less a step-change than an iteration.

by nawgz 3y ago

pixl97 3y ago

> LLMs virtually don't move the needle, I'd say you'll be incorrect in the future. We'll have new abuses by both corporations and propaganda bots in the near future. More and more of us will find 'digital friends' that creep into our lives and talk to us on line, gain our trust, make us laugh, and tell us that 'unions are bad', or whatever the propaganda of the day is. But it's the one on one relationships with history that will make them different than the bots that came before.

c_crank 3y ago
>More and more of us will find 'digital friends' that creep into our lives and talk to us on line, gain our trust, make us laugh, and tell us that 'unions are bad', or whatever the propaganda of the day is. That would just mean automating the job of the secret police. And those guys have unions already!
nawgz 3y ago
> it's the one on one relationships with history that will make them different than the bots that came before Is this intentional ignorance? The reason I use Facebook as the analogy is because Facebook has an insane amount of your history, and isn't afraid to sell any single aspect of that to advertisers. The interface some chatbot-controlling megacorp would expose to propagandists would hardly be different, the history is unlikely to be much stronger, and the network effect seems hard to match. Less a step-change than an iteration.