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I'm annoyed nvidia for putting the current generation of HDMI on their recent GPUs, but leaving them with an outdated version of DisplayPort. For a long time,

I'm annoyed nvidia for putting the current generation of HDMI on their recent GPUs, but leaving them with an outdated version of DisplayPort. For a long time, my advice to anyone was to always choose DisplayPort whenever it was an option. But now that has to have the caveat of "if you have a new high-end GPU and a fancy high refresh rate monitor, HDMI might actually be better for your situation"

gjsman-1000 3y ago
> I'm annoyed nvidia for putting the current generation of HDMI on their recent GPUs, but leaving them with an outdated version of DisplayPort. That was due to unfortunate timing where HDMI had the specifications ready before DisplayPort did.
- Sweepi 3y ago
  AMD’s RX 7000 support Display port 2.0 and were released 2 months later then Nvidia’s Ada. Afaik DP 2.0 has been finished in 2019(!).
- Night_Thastus 3y ago
  I thought it was because their G-Sync modules had not been updated to support the new DP? That was what I heard.
111111IIIIIII 3y ago
And only 1 new version HDMI port but 3 old version DP ports. I use a dual display setup but HDR only works on mu displays with HDMI.
- Strom 3y ago
  The more expensive Gigabyte RTX 3080+ cards had 3x DP 1.4, 2x HDMI 2.1, 1x HDMI 2.0, which was great even if you could only use 4 of them at the same time due to Nvidia limitations. Unfortunately for the 40 series they stopped offering it and now they're the same as stock Nvidia with 3x DP 1.4, 1x HDMI 2.1. Luckily ASUS still offers a bit more with their 4080+ cards - 2x HDMI 2.1, 3x DP 1.4. I personally depend on the 2x HDMI 2.1 to even be able to run my 4K 144Hz monitors at full speed.
  - 111111IIIIIII 3y ago
    Yeah, I only want a 4090 myself.
bdavbdav 3y ago
I also noticed that many boards are 3xHDMI+1xDP now. My previous card was 3DP 1HDMI
- LatticeAnimal 3y ago
  What card is 3xHDMI + 1xDP? I just checked and at least the reference rtx 4080 is still 3xDP 1xHDMI
  - bdavbdav 3y ago
    The Gigabyte 3070 I have certainly is.
ThatPlayer 3y ago
Yeah I hate this too because I just want to have more video outputs. My Valve Index doesn't like to be hotswapped plugged in, requiring a reboot. With 1440p144hz monitors, I just barely cannot run 2 of them (2x14Gbit) over a single DP1.4 (26Gbit) using MST. Windows will automatically drop colour down to 4:2:2 if I try it. Not that DP2.0 MST hubs exist yet afaik, but when they do I'd have to get a new GPU. Which I guess is Nvidia's goal.
bick_nyers 3y ago
I think it's all baked into NVIDIA's product strategy of trying to encourage enthusiasts to upgrade every generation. Yes some enthusiasts will upgrade every generation no matter what strategy you implement, but I would say most enthusiasts philosophy is to buy premium products and skip a generation or two. It used to be just raw computational performance that sold GPUs, but now it's all these additional layers and features, GSYNC, RTX, DLSS, Frame Interpolation, and even the ability to interface with a particular display (e.g. 8k/120Hz) are all part of the product, and so can be reserved to "boost" particular generations desirability. I wouldn't be surprised if there aren't any "software" level enhancements to the 5000 series, just their standard performance uplift, an increase in VRAM capacity (5090 topping out at 32GB), and the new Displayport standard, all to promote and focus on 8K/120Hz and 4k/240Hz gaming. They set the stage for it with the motion interpolation tech. in the 4000 series.

gjsman-1000 3y ago

> I'm annoyed nvidia for putting the current generation of HDMI on their recent GPUs, but leaving them with an outdated version of DisplayPort. That was due to unfortunate timing where HDMI had the specifications ready before DisplayPort did.

Sweepi 3y ago
AMD’s RX 7000 support Display port 2.0 and were released 2 months later then Nvidia’s Ada. Afaik DP 2.0 has been finished in 2019(!).
Night_Thastus 3y ago
I thought it was because their G-Sync modules had not been updated to support the new DP? That was what I heard.

111111IIIIIII 3y ago

And only 1 new version HDMI port but 3 old version DP ports. I use a dual display setup but HDR only works on mu displays with HDMI.

Strom 3y ago
The more expensive Gigabyte RTX 3080+ cards had 3x DP 1.4, 2x HDMI 2.1, 1x HDMI 2.0, which was great even if you could only use 4 of them at the same time due to Nvidia limitations. Unfortunately for the 40 series they stopped offering it and now they're the same as stock Nvidia with 3x DP 1.4, 1x HDMI 2.1. Luckily ASUS still offers a bit more with their 4080+ cards - 2x HDMI 2.1, 3x DP 1.4. I personally depend on the 2x HDMI 2.1 to even be able to run my 4K 144Hz monitors at full speed.
- 111111IIIIIII 3y ago
  Yeah, I only want a 4090 myself.

bdavbdav 3y ago

I also noticed that many boards are 3xHDMI+1xDP now. My previous card was 3DP 1HDMI

LatticeAnimal 3y ago
What card is 3xHDMI + 1xDP? I just checked and at least the reference rtx 4080 is still 3xDP 1xHDMI
- bdavbdav 3y ago
  The Gigabyte 3070 I have certainly is.

ThatPlayer 3y ago

Yeah I hate this too because I just want to have more video outputs. My Valve Index doesn't like to be hotswapped plugged in, requiring a reboot. With 1440p144hz monitors, I just barely cannot run 2 of them (2x14Gbit) over a single DP1.4 (26Gbit) using MST. Windows will automatically drop colour down to 4:2:2 if I try it. Not that DP2.0 MST hubs exist yet afaik, but when they do I'd have to get a new GPU. Which I guess is Nvidia's goal.

bick_nyers 3y ago

I think it's all baked into NVIDIA's product strategy of trying to encourage enthusiasts to upgrade every generation. Yes some enthusiasts will upgrade every generation no matter what strategy you implement, but I would say most enthusiasts philosophy is to buy premium products and skip a generation or two. It used to be just raw computational performance that sold GPUs, but now it's all these additional layers and features, GSYNC, RTX, DLSS, Frame Interpolation, and even the ability to interface with a particular display (e.g. 8k/120Hz) are all part of the product, and so can be reserved to "boost" particular generations desirability. I wouldn't be surprised if there aren't any "software" level enhancements to the 5000 series, just their standard performance uplift, an increase in VRAM capacity (5090 topping out at 32GB), and the new Displayport standard, all to promote and focus on 8K/120Hz and 4k/240Hz gaming. They set the stage for it with the motion interpolation tech. in the 4000 series.