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yeah for me linux>>mac>>bsd>>chromebook>>windows I picked up a macbook air m1 refurbished from apple to see what the fuss is about. It's a great machine. If no

yeah for me linux>>mac>>bsd>>chromebook>>windows I picked up a macbook air m1 refurbished from apple to see what the fuss is about. It's a great machine. If not for that Debian would be primary OS, as it has been for the past ~15 years. I have one mac and a bunch of thinkpads running linux and/or BSD.

aaomidi 3y ago
The second asahi is in a “finished” state im running Linux on my Mac.
- paulmd 3y ago
  ideally, Asahi would never be finished any more than Debian is. And there will always be more generations of hardware. As long as Martin and others are willing to keep running the project there’s work to be done. It’s just a question of whether it’s good enough for you or not. And honestly, for laptops, the answer so far is probably still "not". Thunderbolt not working is kind of a deal killer, for example. https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Feature-Support https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Feature-Support Gotta say the other day I was thinking about the Mac Pro and even at only 192GB of memory, 20P/4E with some Optane SSDs and some flash behind it would absolutely tear through postgres workloads, I bet. Everyone is dumping on Mac Pro for regressing on memory capacity (after spending the last 2 years dumping on the "$50k mac" and comparing it against Threadripper builds that top out at 256GB), and asking why Mac Pro instead of Studio. Since Asahi doesn't support Thunderbolt yet, you can't use enclosures on Studio. Mac Pro is the only option for a PCIe card that Apple won't sign a driver kext for (NVIDIA cards, for example - and they do have an aarch64 driver thanks to the Tegra family!). NVIDIA glomming onto Asahi and giving it formal support instead of going their own way with L4T/Jetson Linux would be an interesting course of events. It is, after all, just ARM64/AArch64 under the hood.
  - sliken 3y ago
    Sort of. Asahi is doing a ton of work on the fan control, touchpad, GPU, video out, 8k page support, and related that isn't normally required to do a Linux Distro. Once all the user space and kernel tweaks are upstreamed then just about any Linux distro will just work. Sure someone will occasionally have to add support for current apple hardware, but that's dramatically less than starting from zero, and might well not happen under Asahi.
- nortonham 3y ago
  I might be in the same boat as you tbh. I will say, I like macos more than I thought I would, coming from debian. Also, having a terminal/zsh and being able to do some unixy stuff if I want to is a plus.

aaomidi 3y ago

The second asahi is in a “finished” state im running Linux on my Mac.

paulmd 3y ago
ideally, Asahi would never be finished any more than Debian is. And there will always be more generations of hardware. As long as Martin and others are willing to keep running the project there’s work to be done. It’s just a question of whether it’s good enough for you or not. And honestly, for laptops, the answer so far is probably still "not". Thunderbolt not working is kind of a deal killer, for example. https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Feature-Support https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Feature-Support Gotta say the other day I was thinking about the Mac Pro and even at only 192GB of memory, 20P/4E with some Optane SSDs and some flash behind it would absolutely tear through postgres workloads, I bet. Everyone is dumping on Mac Pro for regressing on memory capacity (after spending the last 2 years dumping on the "$50k mac" and comparing it against Threadripper builds that top out at 256GB), and asking why Mac Pro instead of Studio. Since Asahi doesn't support Thunderbolt yet, you can't use enclosures on Studio. Mac Pro is the only option for a PCIe card that Apple won't sign a driver kext for (NVIDIA cards, for example - and they do have an aarch64 driver thanks to the Tegra family!). NVIDIA glomming onto Asahi and giving it formal support instead of going their own way with L4T/Jetson Linux would be an interesting course of events. It is, after all, just ARM64/AArch64 under the hood.
- sliken 3y ago
  Sort of. Asahi is doing a ton of work on the fan control, touchpad, GPU, video out, 8k page support, and related that isn't normally required to do a Linux Distro. Once all the user space and kernel tweaks are upstreamed then just about any Linux distro will just work. Sure someone will occasionally have to add support for current apple hardware, but that's dramatically less than starting from zero, and might well not happen under Asahi.
nortonham 3y ago
I might be in the same boat as you tbh. I will say, I like macos more than I thought I would, coming from debian. Also, having a terminal/zsh and being able to do some unixy stuff if I want to is a plus.