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What is obsolete about Mac software? It seems like much of Windows' evolution since 7 is just ads and janky telemetry features which nobody wants.

nortonham 3y ago
every windows after 7 is awful. ads and random ui changes.
felipetrz 3y ago
MacOS is still stuck in the 90s skeuomorphic design bs, and prevents users from changing any aspect of the UI to achieve a minimum of comfort and productivity. The UI is buggy, pop-up windows steal focus all the time, window management is pretty much nonexistent, there are slow animations with laggy focus changes. It may be fine for a soft user who just uses a browser, but trying to do any serious work on a mac is a nightmare compared to a modern tiling WM on linux.
- flohofwoe 3y ago
  For any "serious work" you'd spend 90% of the time in a terminal anyway, so that's not much of an issue tbh (ok, admittedly that's a very coder-centric perspective).
  - bdcravens 3y ago
    Those talking about "serious" work are usually gatekeepers. Perhaps the revenue my code generates isn't "serious", but I'm happy to sit down at any Mac with Visual Studio Code and drag and drop my way to the bank instead of spending hours getting my dotfiles to artisanal perfection.
  - felipetrz 3y ago
    You'd at least have to switch between your terminal and a browser window, which already hits macos' horrible focus bugs when window switching.
    - flohofwoe 3y ago
      True, except that the weird Alt-Tabbing behaviour on Mac is not a bug, but it's supposed to work that way (it switches between applications - even applications that don't have any windows open). I don't like that behaviour either, but technically it's not a bug even if it feels like that when coming from other desktop environments.
- bdcravens 3y ago
  Is it? I don't see anything on my desktop I'd consider skeumorphic. Perhaps I'm privileged, but to me using multiple monitors each with a full focus, and swipe gestures to move between desktops, is as useful as any tiling WM.
arsome 3y ago
WSL
- manuelabeledo 3y ago
  WSL always seemed to me like Microsoft's admission of being late to POSIX.
glimshe 3y ago
As a daily Mac and Windows user... I could write a large article, and when people ask me this, I always say a different thing - because there are too many. So there it is today's: Leave my screen real estate alone, please get rid of this annoying menu bar that gets in the way when I'm trying to use the mouse to switch tabs in the application. This is UI thinking from the 1980s. It's very easy to misclick the tab because of the fine control skills required to avoid the menu bar. I don't want full screen because of my multi-monitor setup. Interestingly, speaking of multimonitor... Connecting my M2 to my gaming monitor... Windows syncs with the monitor in 3 seconds, the Mac takes 10 seconds.

nortonham 3y ago

every windows after 7 is awful. ads and random ui changes.

felipetrz 3y ago

MacOS is still stuck in the 90s skeuomorphic design bs, and prevents users from changing any aspect of the UI to achieve a minimum of comfort and productivity. The UI is buggy, pop-up windows steal focus all the time, window management is pretty much nonexistent, there are slow animations with laggy focus changes. It may be fine for a soft user who just uses a browser, but trying to do any serious work on a mac is a nightmare compared to a modern tiling WM on linux.

flohofwoe 3y ago
For any "serious work" you'd spend 90% of the time in a terminal anyway, so that's not much of an issue tbh (ok, admittedly that's a very coder-centric perspective).
- bdcravens 3y ago
  Those talking about "serious" work are usually gatekeepers. Perhaps the revenue my code generates isn't "serious", but I'm happy to sit down at any Mac with Visual Studio Code and drag and drop my way to the bank instead of spending hours getting my dotfiles to artisanal perfection.
- felipetrz 3y ago
  You'd at least have to switch between your terminal and a browser window, which already hits macos' horrible focus bugs when window switching.
  - flohofwoe 3y ago
    True, except that the weird Alt-Tabbing behaviour on Mac is not a bug, but it's supposed to work that way (it switches between applications - even applications that don't have any windows open). I don't like that behaviour either, but technically it's not a bug even if it feels like that when coming from other desktop environments.
bdcravens 3y ago
Is it? I don't see anything on my desktop I'd consider skeumorphic. Perhaps I'm privileged, but to me using multiple monitors each with a full focus, and swipe gestures to move between desktops, is as useful as any tiling WM.

arsome 3y ago

WSL

manuelabeledo 3y ago
WSL always seemed to me like Microsoft's admission of being late to POSIX.

glimshe 3y ago

As a daily Mac and Windows user... I could write a large article, and when people ask me this, I always say a different thing - because there are too many. So there it is today's: Leave my screen real estate alone, please get rid of this annoying menu bar that gets in the way when I'm trying to use the mouse to switch tabs in the application. This is UI thinking from the 1980s. It's very easy to misclick the tab because of the fine control skills required to avoid the menu bar. I don't want full screen because of my multi-monitor setup. Interestingly, speaking of multimonitor... Connecting my M2 to my gaming monitor... Windows syncs with the monitor in 3 seconds, the Mac takes 10 seconds.