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Can't you just copy what the Dockerfile is doing bud? Plenty of home server enthusiasts love docker for the simplicity it brings to handling a bunch of software

by r_p4rk 3y ago

Can't you just copy what the Dockerfile is doing bud? Plenty of home server enthusiasts love docker for the simplicity it brings to handling a bunch of software. Not trying to knock you, just wondering where the complexity is coming from for you.

kunwon1 3y ago
Sure I can. But it's not always that simple. Let's look at the repository for the software discussed in this thread [1] I see one dockerfile and 7 docker compose files (.yml) The dockerfile does not apparently do anything useful. I'd be amazed if running that dockerfile by itself produced anything useful Now, I don't know very much about docker compose, but I learned a bit of it in order to get this software running on my server. If I worked at it, I could almost certainly get a working install of PhotoPrism without using Docker, but it would be annoying work, and I wouldn't have any certainty. I wouldn't know that it was correct, and any time something didn't work the way I expect, I would worry that I screwed something up during the installation Not to mention the added operational complexity involved in managing a dockerized application compared to managing e.g. an equivalent webapp deployed without containerization (systemd service file, configuration file, etc) [1] https://github.com/photoprism/photoprism https://github.com/photoprism/photoprism
- j1elo 3y ago
  That Dockerfile doesn't seem to do anything because it inherits from another container that probably has more interesting stuff in it. In any case, I found this in the docker/ subdirectory (if it was me I would have put it in the main README): https://github.com/photoprism/photoprism/tree/develop/docker#building-from-source https://github.com/photoprism/photoprism/tree/develop/docker... Building From Source You can build and install PhotoPrism from the publicly available source code:* git clone https://github.com/photoprism/photoprism.git cd photoprism make all install DESTDIR=/opt/photoprism
  - kunwon1 3y ago
    I found this too. They mention this: Missing build dependencies must be installed manually as shown in our human-readable and versioned Dockerfile. I haven't been able to find any dockerfile that lists dependencies. My guess is that the documentation is referring to some prior architecture or something similar
    - j1elo 3y ago
      And the word "Dockerfile" is a link to a nonexistent page... they definitely skipped their grep + sed update homework when moving things around. Noticing the broken link points to photoprism/docker/develop/Dockerfile, I supposed they had moved it and indeed, just by going one parent up, the directoy photoprism/docker/develop/ contains subdirectories for lots of base systems, each one containing a Dockerfile that lists dependencies needed for each of them. For example, for Ubuntu 20.04: https://github.com/photoprism/photoprism/blob/develop/docker/develop/jammy/Dockerfile https://github.com/photoprism/photoprism/blob/develop/docker...

by r_p4rk 3y ago

kunwon1 3y ago

Sure I can. But it's not always that simple. Let's look at the repository for the software discussed in this thread [1] I see one dockerfile and 7 docker compose files (.yml) The dockerfile does not apparently do anything useful. I'd be amazed if running that dockerfile by itself produced anything useful Now, I don't know very much about docker compose, but I learned a bit of it in order to get this software running on my server. If I worked at it, I could almost certainly get a working install of PhotoPrism without using Docker, but it would be annoying work, and I wouldn't have any certainty. I wouldn't know that it was correct, and any time something didn't work the way I expect, I would worry that I screwed something up during the installation Not to mention the added operational complexity involved in managing a dockerized application compared to managing e.g. an equivalent webapp deployed without containerization (systemd service file, configuration file, etc) [1] https://github.com/photoprism/photoprism https://github.com/photoprism/photoprism

j1elo 3y ago
That Dockerfile doesn't seem to do anything because it inherits from another container that probably has more interesting stuff in it. In any case, I found this in the docker/ subdirectory (if it was me I would have put it in the main README): https://github.com/photoprism/photoprism/tree/develop/docker#building-from-source https://github.com/photoprism/photoprism/tree/develop/docker... Building From Source You can build and install PhotoPrism from the publicly available source code:* git clone https://github.com/photoprism/photoprism.git cd photoprism make all install DESTDIR=/opt/photoprism
- kunwon1 3y ago
  I found this too. They mention this: Missing build dependencies must be installed manually as shown in our human-readable and versioned Dockerfile. I haven't been able to find any dockerfile that lists dependencies. My guess is that the documentation is referring to some prior architecture or something similar
  - j1elo 3y ago
    And the word "Dockerfile" is a link to a nonexistent page... they definitely skipped their grep + sed update homework when moving things around. Noticing the broken link points to photoprism/docker/develop/Dockerfile, I supposed they had moved it and indeed, just by going one parent up, the directoy photoprism/docker/develop/ contains subdirectories for lots of base systems, each one containing a Dockerfile that lists dependencies needed for each of them. For example, for Ubuntu 20.04: https://github.com/photoprism/photoprism/blob/develop/docker/develop/jammy/Dockerfile https://github.com/photoprism/photoprism/blob/develop/docker...