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It is not the scientific method at all. You didn't even include an analyze or a publish step, two critical components to the scientific method. The point is tha

It is not the scientific method at all. You didn't even include an analyze or a publish step, two critical components to the scientific method. The point is that science is a thoughtful, methodical, recorded, repeatable process that is scrutinized by not just your friends but by the entire world, including those who compete against you. In science, it's normal for your competitor to recreate your experiment exactly to see if you did it as well as you claim. Or to push it further. What OpenAI is doing doesn't even resemble science at all.

blitz_skull 3y ago
Umm.. no. I’m pretty sure when science was “invented” (whatever that means), there was no way to share your research with “the world”. You wrote it down in a book in you cared to reproduce it. Stop gate-keeping science. Observe, Predict, Test, Repeat. That is science. Kids do science when they watch adults do things. Just because you aren’t sitting in a lab publishing things no one reads doesn’t mean you can’t “do science.”
- hattmall 3y ago
  Just simply learning something isn't "doing science." The scientific method is a natural learning process it's not the only thing that defines science. This is incredibly light gate keeping. It's just maintaining a basic professional definition.
- criley2 3y ago
  If a child watching an adult is "science", then when I brush my teeth I'm a dentist. Words have meaning and when you dilute them down this far the only result is the destruction of communication.
  - frumper 3y ago
    Words do have meaning. den· tist ˈden-təst : one who is skilled in and licensed to practice the prevention, diagnosis, and treatment of diseases, injuries, and malformations of the teeth, jaws, and mouth and who makes and inserts false teeth Brushing your teeth does not imply you are a dentist. sci·ence noun 1. the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained. "the world of science and technology" A child may not be a good scientist, but they observe, experiment and explore their ideas. That sounds like science to me. Observational learning is a very common way scientist begin to understand things.
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mdp2021 3y ago
Do not forget that with ANNs we are still dealing with technologies with obscure sides: function approximators where the original function, and what it means, is oftentimes not reconstructed. Replication of the experiment, "verification" of the law, can still be within a largely preliminary side - of the steps that describe behavioural details, patterns over "protocols", without the explanatory side (that which cause understanding, e.g. enabling deduction).
hyperthesis 3y ago
The publish step of the scientific method always seemed out of place to me - it means you can't discover anything on your own, which doesn't seem correct to me. However, to discover something new (not just new to you) does require contact with established knowledge. And if you don't publish, you can't be very sure that it really is "new"; and it does not become part of established knowledge - it has not been discovered. i.e. the concept of discovering new knowledge means it cannot be done on a desert island.

blitz_skull 3y ago

Umm.. no. I’m pretty sure when science was “invented” (whatever that means), there was no way to share your research with “the world”. You wrote it down in a book in you cared to reproduce it. Stop gate-keeping science. Observe, Predict, Test, Repeat. That is science. Kids do science when they watch adults do things. Just because you aren’t sitting in a lab publishing things no one reads doesn’t mean you can’t “do science.”

hattmall 3y ago
Just simply learning something isn't "doing science." The scientific method is a natural learning process it's not the only thing that defines science. This is incredibly light gate keeping. It's just maintaining a basic professional definition.
criley2 3y ago
If a child watching an adult is "science", then when I brush my teeth I'm a dentist. Words have meaning and when you dilute them down this far the only result is the destruction of communication.
- frumper 3y ago
  Words do have meaning. den· tist ˈden-təst : one who is skilled in and licensed to practice the prevention, diagnosis, and treatment of diseases, injuries, and malformations of the teeth, jaws, and mouth and who makes and inserts false teeth Brushing your teeth does not imply you are a dentist. sci·ence noun 1. the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained. "the world of science and technology" A child may not be a good scientist, but they observe, experiment and explore their ideas. That sounds like science to me. Observational learning is a very common way scientist begin to understand things.
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mdp2021 3y ago

Do not forget that with ANNs we are still dealing with technologies with obscure sides: function approximators where the original function, and what it means, is oftentimes not reconstructed. Replication of the experiment, "verification" of the law, can still be within a largely preliminary side - of the steps that describe behavioural details, patterns over "protocols", without the explanatory side (that which cause understanding, e.g. enabling deduction).

hyperthesis 3y ago

The publish step of the scientific method always seemed out of place to me - it means you can't discover anything on your own, which doesn't seem correct to me. However, to discover something new (not just new to you) does require contact with established knowledge. And if you don't publish, you can't be very sure that it really is "new"; and it does not become part of established knowledge - it has not been discovered. i.e. the concept of discovering new knowledge means it cannot be done on a desert island.