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I still don't see how any of this matters to me? Are you reading what I'm writing or more interested in lecturing somebody today? You keep bringing up argument

I still don't see how any of this matters to me? Are you reading what I'm writing or more interested in lecturing somebody today? You keep bringing up arguments I've already said will not sway me. I don't care that my ancestors were colonizers because it wasn't me. I don't care if you call me an invader because, again, it wasn't me. I'm not interested in giving any land back to anyone or allowing anyone into the country with no checks and balances because of something that happened 100s of years ago. And yes, I'm aware of the residential schools, but no, our government being shitty still doesn't make me desire turning Canada into a postnational state. Because it wasn't me! My ancestors are not me and I'm not interested in carrying weight on my shoulders for things other people have done.

jacquesm 3y ago
> You keep bringing up arguments I've already said will not sway me. That's not a problem with the arguments, it's a problem with your worldview. If everything that happened that you directly benefit from 'wasn't you' and you therefore refuse to redress the wrongs done and on top of that refuse those same benefits to others that doesn't - in my opinion - make you a nice or reasonable person. Similar arguments have been put forth by the beneficiaries of crimes in the past and failed. You're obviously entirely welcome to your worldview and your feeling that if it wasn't you that did it that you can ignore the source of your wealth but such individual selfishness can add up to collective selfishness and that's the sort of thing that will sooner or later garner a collective response. And by then no amount of 'it wasn't me' will be of help because it was you, all along. By helping to correct these wrong and by being open to others being helped you serve yourself because you keep the social pressures at a manageable level. Ignoring them for too long leads to them spilling over.
- evandale 3y ago
  > You're obviously entirely welcome to your worldview and your feeling that if it wasn't you that did it that you can ignore the source of your wealth but such individual selfishness can add up to collective selfishness and that's the sort of thing that will sooner or later garner a collective response. And by then no amount of 'it wasn't me' will be of help because it was you, all along. No, it wasn't me. For one, I was born in 1983 so it's literally impossible for it to have been me. I also don't have any wealth that I've benefited from. My family is broke as fuck and I'll inherit literally nothing of any value to anyone when my parents die. I have no living grandparents left. You're going to have to do better than "your worldview is different from mine therefore it sucks" to convince me that I've oppressed anyone anywhere. Your worldview sucks though and I suggest you get a better one. I can't help you with that because I'm not willing to patronize you so willingly, so good luck.

jacquesm 3y ago

> You keep bringing up arguments I've already said will not sway me. That's not a problem with the arguments, it's a problem with your worldview. If everything that happened that you directly benefit from 'wasn't you' and you therefore refuse to redress the wrongs done and on top of that refuse those same benefits to others that doesn't - in my opinion - make you a nice or reasonable person. Similar arguments have been put forth by the beneficiaries of crimes in the past and failed. You're obviously entirely welcome to your worldview and your feeling that if it wasn't you that did it that you can ignore the source of your wealth but such individual selfishness can add up to collective selfishness and that's the sort of thing that will sooner or later garner a collective response. And by then no amount of 'it wasn't me' will be of help because it was you, all along. By helping to correct these wrong and by being open to others being helped you serve yourself because you keep the social pressures at a manageable level. Ignoring them for too long leads to them spilling over.

evandale 3y ago
> You're obviously entirely welcome to your worldview and your feeling that if it wasn't you that did it that you can ignore the source of your wealth but such individual selfishness can add up to collective selfishness and that's the sort of thing that will sooner or later garner a collective response. And by then no amount of 'it wasn't me' will be of help because it was you, all along. No, it wasn't me. For one, I was born in 1983 so it's literally impossible for it to have been me. I also don't have any wealth that I've benefited from. My family is broke as fuck and I'll inherit literally nothing of any value to anyone when my parents die. I have no living grandparents left. You're going to have to do better than "your worldview is different from mine therefore it sucks" to convince me that I've oppressed anyone anywhere. Your worldview sucks though and I suggest you get a better one. I can't help you with that because I'm not willing to patronize you so willingly, so good luck.