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> The second change is the TikTok-ization I noted above: my new vertical axis is user-generated content, by which I mean content across the network, versus netw

> The second change is the TikTok-ization I noted above: my new vertical axis is user-generated content, by which I mean content across the network, versus network-generated content, by which I mean content from the people you choose to follow. Maybe I'm a bit slow this morning, but I'm not following this. The time-based/algo-based distinction I get, but...user content is network content and network content is users you follow? All content is user-generated, right? Blogging is on the "content across the network" side, but I only get content from blogs I choose to follow, right?

lapcat 3y ago
Agreed, I also found this confusing.
chamanbuga 3y ago
My take on this was user generated content = content generated by people you follow vs network generated content = content generated by people that you don't follow that the network recommends to you. There's a huge difference between TikTok's FYP and Following Page and Friends page. While content is all user generated, I expect something different from each of these three modes.
- 16bitvoid 3y ago
  Same, but I think you got it backwards, at least based on their description. User-generated content = content generated by all users (i.e., users you follow and users you don't) Network-generated content = content generated by users in your network (i.e., users you follow)
  - chamanbuga 3y ago
    Makes sense. I think my framing would make sense if it said platform-generated content. Network per your framing makes more sense.
    - 16bitvoid 3y ago
      The description by the author makes it confusing with "network" being used in both terms; definition of one and the term itself in the other.
      - askura 3y ago
        Yeah had the same issue as above but this does help clear it up
alwayslikethis 3y ago
It's just a poor description. Maybe a better way to frame this is user control of content served, from a black box based on your data (Tiktok) to fully deterministic by user action (RSS). This largely runs parallel to the time vs algo based axis though.
awongh 3y ago
They are the same content, but they’re not the same product at all. You could say that all TikTok does is repackage content for wider distribution across the app in a more aggressive way than social apps had before.
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lapcat 3y ago

Agreed, I also found this confusing.

chamanbuga 3y ago

My take on this was user generated content = content generated by people you follow vs network generated content = content generated by people that you don't follow that the network recommends to you. There's a huge difference between TikTok's FYP and Following Page and Friends page. While content is all user generated, I expect something different from each of these three modes.

16bitvoid 3y ago
Same, but I think you got it backwards, at least based on their description. User-generated content = content generated by all users (i.e., users you follow and users you don't) Network-generated content = content generated by users in your network (i.e., users you follow)
- chamanbuga 3y ago
  Makes sense. I think my framing would make sense if it said platform-generated content. Network per your framing makes more sense.
  - 16bitvoid 3y ago
    The description by the author makes it confusing with "network" being used in both terms; definition of one and the term itself in the other.
    - askura 3y ago
      Yeah had the same issue as above but this does help clear it up

alwayslikethis 3y ago

It's just a poor description. Maybe a better way to frame this is user control of content served, from a black box based on your data (Tiktok) to fully deterministic by user action (RSS). This largely runs parallel to the time vs algo based axis though.

awongh 3y ago

They are the same content, but they’re not the same product at all. You could say that all TikTok does is repackage content for wider distribution across the app in a more aggressive way than social apps had before.

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