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So why not a private non-profit instead of government?

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HWR_14 3y ago
Why prefer a private non-profit to the government? I like non-profits in some cases. They're great at funneling money into specific causes that people care about. Especially small ones (a local theater group is the go to example) or politically charged ones. But "the trains running" doesn't seem like one of those. Why not have the government oversee it?
- waihtis 3y ago
  any government system is too likely to be corrupted by politicians in relatively short timeframe
  - HWR_14 3y ago
    As opposed to the unaccountable board of a non-profit raking in significant income? Where they can pay themselves a nice bonus if they make more money for the non-profit?
    - waihtis 3y ago
      [flagged]
      - tnel77 3y ago
        It doesn’t feel like they are trolling. They gave a legitimate response and you don’t like it. It’s a valid concern that I feel you should address.
        waihtis 3y ago
        Its a completely unproductive answer. Why do you assume a non-profit set up for a cause will predominantly exist to pay it's directors bonuses? Lets deconstruct the three options on the table: 1) for-profit private -> exists to make money to their shareholders 2) government -> exists to (on paper) provide services to the people, but has a plethora of other reasons of existence (provide jobs for people, provide ego boosts for politicians working in the system) 3) non-profit private -> exists to provide a legal structure around an agreed cause It is certainly possible someone establishes a non-profit to pocket the money for themselves, but it is a very clear violation of the purpose of the whole structure. In the other two, it is completely acceptable to bounce out of the cause of providing a service to the people, as there are other "goals" for the underlying system. Whining about directors paying themselves bonuses a low-IQ bait to start flame wars.
    - tnel77 3y ago
      They deleted their comment about you being a troll for this response, but I agree with you. I’d like to know what their response is.
      - waihtis 3y ago
        I didn't delete anything, people flagged my reply
        tnel77 3y ago
        Fair enough. Do you plan on replying to them anyways? I’m interested in what your answer would be.
tnel77 3y ago
If it works, I wouldn’t be against that.
kranke155 3y ago
The TFL works very well in london but I’m not sure about its structure

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Why prefer a private non-profit to the government? I like non-profits in some cases. They're great at funneling money into specific causes that people care about. Especially small ones (a local theater group is the go to example) or politically charged ones. But "the trains running" doesn't seem like one of those. Why not have the government oversee it?

waihtis 3y ago
any government system is too likely to be corrupted by politicians in relatively short timeframe
- HWR_14 3y ago
  As opposed to the unaccountable board of a non-profit raking in significant income? Where they can pay themselves a nice bonus if they make more money for the non-profit?
  - waihtis 3y ago
    [flagged]
    - tnel77 3y ago
      It doesn’t feel like they are trolling. They gave a legitimate response and you don’t like it. It’s a valid concern that I feel you should address.
      - waihtis 3y ago
        Its a completely unproductive answer. Why do you assume a non-profit set up for a cause will predominantly exist to pay it's directors bonuses? Lets deconstruct the three options on the table: 1) for-profit private -> exists to make money to their shareholders 2) government -> exists to (on paper) provide services to the people, but has a plethora of other reasons of existence (provide jobs for people, provide ego boosts for politicians working in the system) 3) non-profit private -> exists to provide a legal structure around an agreed cause It is certainly possible someone establishes a non-profit to pocket the money for themselves, but it is a very clear violation of the purpose of the whole structure. In the other two, it is completely acceptable to bounce out of the cause of providing a service to the people, as there are other "goals" for the underlying system. Whining about directors paying themselves bonuses a low-IQ bait to start flame wars.
  - tnel77 3y ago
    They deleted their comment about you being a troll for this response, but I agree with you. I’d like to know what their response is.
    - waihtis 3y ago
      I didn't delete anything, people flagged my reply
      - tnel77 3y ago
        Fair enough. Do you plan on replying to them anyways? I’m interested in what your answer would be.

tnel77 3y ago

If it works, I wouldn’t be against that.

kranke155 3y ago

The TFL works very well in london but I’m not sure about its structure