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1. If SUSE wants to preserve choice, it should offer a systemd-free distribution. 2. Agree with silisili's bafflement at how corporations are sticking to RHEL.

PlutoIsAPlanet 3y ago
They should also offer a Linux-free distribution, and a GNU free distribution, and a glibc free distribution. Fuck it, let's make a cpu-free distribution whilst we're at it.
- casparvitch 3y ago
  So sick of CPUs in Linux distros, the feature creep is insane!
  - pgeorgi 3y ago
    And it's all a ploy by Big Silicon to subjugate software. As if software needs a CPU to run!
    - self_awareness 3y ago
      Everyone should be free to download a copy of the source code, and interpret it in their own heads.
      - SanchoPanda 3y ago
        You would want special head gear in case of over heating, perhaps some kind of low soft felt hat with a curled brim and the crown creased lengthways.
- lproven 3y ago
  > They should also offer a Linux-free distribution, and a GNU free distribution, and a glibc free distribution. It's called FreeBSD. HTH. HAND. ;-) What? Well, it is! It's Linux-free, it has no systemd and no glibc, and no GPL code so it is de facto NU free. But it has a Linux emulator and can run Linux binaries. And there is Illumos, which can also run Linux binaries. If you don't need the Linux binaries part, there are also DragonflyBSD, NetBSD and OpenBSD. All FOSS, all current, all out there, working, with active communities.
  - einpoklum 3y ago
    Actually, are there companies which offer "corporate, RHEL/SLES-like support" for a BSD distribution, or FreeBSD particularly? That's also a niche I wish we could see.
bandrami 3y ago
There are already excellent libre systemd-free distros, with release cadences ranging from rolling (Guix) to RHEL-level glacial (Slackware). That's not a hole in the market right now.
- PlutoIsAPlanet 3y ago
  The need for systemd-free distros in the market is probably more from the embedded space rather than people who hate modern technology.
  - bandrami 3y ago
    Last I checked the most popular container distro is Alpine; the slimmer options definitely have their place. But then Guix is the opposite of a slim distro...
- einpoklum 3y ago
  It's somewhat of a whole in the market for distributions with commercial-corporate-handholding. But you're right in that a company like SUSE could, instead of introducing a new distribution, decide they're "adopting" an existing FOSS distribution (systemd-free or otherwise) and offering hand-holding, call-us-any-time support for corporations deploying it.
greyw 3y ago
They should also offer the GNU Hurd kernel.

PlutoIsAPlanet 3y ago

They should also offer a Linux-free distribution, and a GNU free distribution, and a glibc free distribution. Fuck it, let's make a cpu-free distribution whilst we're at it.

casparvitch 3y ago
So sick of CPUs in Linux distros, the feature creep is insane!
- pgeorgi 3y ago
  And it's all a ploy by Big Silicon to subjugate software. As if software needs a CPU to run!
  - self_awareness 3y ago
    Everyone should be free to download a copy of the source code, and interpret it in their own heads.
    - SanchoPanda 3y ago
      You would want special head gear in case of over heating, perhaps some kind of low soft felt hat with a curled brim and the crown creased lengthways.
lproven 3y ago
> They should also offer a Linux-free distribution, and a GNU free distribution, and a glibc free distribution. It's called FreeBSD. HTH. HAND. ;-) What? Well, it is! It's Linux-free, it has no systemd and no glibc, and no GPL code so it is de facto NU free. But it has a Linux emulator and can run Linux binaries. And there is Illumos, which can also run Linux binaries. If you don't need the Linux binaries part, there are also DragonflyBSD, NetBSD and OpenBSD. All FOSS, all current, all out there, working, with active communities.
- einpoklum 3y ago
  Actually, are there companies which offer "corporate, RHEL/SLES-like support" for a BSD distribution, or FreeBSD particularly? That's also a niche I wish we could see.

bandrami 3y ago

There are already excellent libre systemd-free distros, with release cadences ranging from rolling (Guix) to RHEL-level glacial (Slackware). That's not a hole in the market right now.

PlutoIsAPlanet 3y ago
The need for systemd-free distros in the market is probably more from the embedded space rather than people who hate modern technology.
- bandrami 3y ago
  Last I checked the most popular container distro is Alpine; the slimmer options definitely have their place. But then Guix is the opposite of a slim distro...
einpoklum 3y ago
It's somewhat of a whole in the market for distributions with commercial-corporate-handholding. But you're right in that a company like SUSE could, instead of introducing a new distribution, decide they're "adopting" an existing FOSS distribution (systemd-free or otherwise) and offering hand-holding, call-us-any-time support for corporations deploying it.

greyw 3y ago

They should also offer the GNU Hurd kernel.