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We need a new internet for that. Half joking but not really. One that is strictly p2p and has no distinction between client and server. All applications run cli

We need a new internet for that. Half joking but not really. One that is strictly p2p and has no distinction between client and server. All applications run client side and sync with a trusted and opt in friend of friend spanning tree. Looks more like organic neighborhoods. Incentivizes closer relationships but can still leverage networks in higher degrees through friend of friend connections. Essentially something like BitTorrent and bypassing BGP and incentivizing local clusters of information exchange that get mixed with “curators” who dip into multiple networks helping networks replicate information they want access to. Latency matters less when it’s all run locally and can even be done predictably with local ai for many scenarios. That with local application rules that get verified by whoever is peering through/with you on a app. Another part that I came across as a separate inquiry of possibility was kind of a OS on top of such a structure where you wouldn’t need anything than a “terminal” as all your computers are on a virtual machine overlay. It’s be interested to have every possible computation be hashed so once it’s done it just need to be retrieved so you can treat all peers as a type of addressable memory to not only information but computation and data. It’s something I wanted to build but then I lost motivation because I can’t possibly be sane or unique now can I?

dfcowell 3y ago
I’m reminded of PGP signing parties where people built a web of trust via key signing. There may be a resurgence of this kind of thing as people use social heuristics to decide if any given creator is likely to be producing generative content or not.
nairboon 3y ago
Yep, this is the way forward. Long time ago, I also started some groundwork to build something like this, but had to stop it due to lack of time. As this would be a multi-year effort, with no commercial gains (which is a feature in my view).
tivra 3y ago
Your vision is intriguing. The emphasis on decentralization, privacy, and a peer-to-peer model to reconstruct the Net is something we need now more than ever IMO A project I've been experimenting with, Bison Relay, makes strides in this direction. It's a p2p platform that offers zero knowledge communications with end-to-end encryption, so messages are seen only by their intended recipients. It integrates with the Lightning Network. Each message involves a microtransaction as a spam prevention measure, and users also have the opportunity to monetize their content in a simple way... our internet now is "free" only because we ourselves are the product, as we know! In its current form it's like a Telegram + Twitter and soon it will have sites and "eBay" like stores, all completely p2p check out its github or website, you need an invite to join tho RN
- student2k 3y ago
  A few more details on why and how BisonRelay : https://blog.decred.org/2022/12/14/Bison-Relay-The-Sovereign-Internet/ https://blog.decred.org/2022/12/14/Bison-Relay-The-Sovereign... https://blog.decred.org/2022/12/09/Trapped-in-the-Web/ https://blog.decred.org/2022/12/09/Trapped-in-the-Web/ https://blog.decred.org/2022/12/02/What-is-wrong-with-Decred/ https://blog.decred.org/2022/12/02/What-is-wrong-with-Decred...

dfcowell 3y ago

I’m reminded of PGP signing parties where people built a web of trust via key signing. There may be a resurgence of this kind of thing as people use social heuristics to decide if any given creator is likely to be producing generative content or not.

nairboon 3y ago

Yep, this is the way forward. Long time ago, I also started some groundwork to build something like this, but had to stop it due to lack of time. As this would be a multi-year effort, with no commercial gains (which is a feature in my view).

tivra 3y ago

Your vision is intriguing. The emphasis on decentralization, privacy, and a peer-to-peer model to reconstruct the Net is something we need now more than ever IMO A project I've been experimenting with, Bison Relay, makes strides in this direction. It's a p2p platform that offers zero knowledge communications with end-to-end encryption, so messages are seen only by their intended recipients. It integrates with the Lightning Network. Each message involves a microtransaction as a spam prevention measure, and users also have the opportunity to monetize their content in a simple way... our internet now is "free" only because we ourselves are the product, as we know! In its current form it's like a Telegram + Twitter and soon it will have sites and "eBay" like stores, all completely p2p check out its github or website, you need an invite to join tho RN

student2k 3y ago
A few more details on why and how BisonRelay : https://blog.decred.org/2022/12/14/Bison-Relay-The-Sovereign-Internet/ https://blog.decred.org/2022/12/14/Bison-Relay-The-Sovereign... https://blog.decred.org/2022/12/09/Trapped-in-the-Web/ https://blog.decred.org/2022/12/09/Trapped-in-the-Web/ https://blog.decred.org/2022/12/02/What-is-wrong-with-Decred/ https://blog.decred.org/2022/12/02/What-is-wrong-with-Decred...