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I am genuinely curious: can you give examples of illegal content a EU based server would not be allowed to display/link to but a US based would?

ndlan 3y ago
October, 2018: "In Europe, Speech Is an Alienable Right: [the European Court of Human Rights] upheld an Austrian woman’s conviction for disparaging the Prophet Muhammad." https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/its-not-free-speech-criticize-muhammad-echr-ruled/574174/ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/its-not-fr...
- aftoprokrustes 3y ago
  Without the need to agree or disagree with the ruling itself (which I cannot read about, as the article is behind a paywall, and I expect that the ruling is more nuanced than what the clickbait title suggests), the fact that a person was condemned for saying something for some reason (provocation to hate I would assume) does not mean that a mastodon server would be liable for relaying the information. Actually, politicians get condemned on a regular basis for diffamation or hate speech, but I never heard of any TV channel or newspaper being sued for having reported on the discourse of said politicians. I have to say that I expected a bit more, as you mentioned "most content on the internet".
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faiD9Eet 3y ago
In Germany you are not allowed to downplay, deny or condone the Holocaust. It is part of the criminal code. § 130 iii StGB https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stgb/__130.html https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stgb/__130.html > Mit Freiheitsstrafe bis zu fünf Jahren oder mit Geldstrafe wird bestraft, wer eine unter der Herrschaft des Nationalsozialismus begangene Handlung [...] öffentlich oder in einer Versammlung billigt, leugnet oder verharmlost.
mcv 3y ago
Extreme hate speech. In Germany, Nazi symbols and holocaust denial are illegal. I think Musk's new right-wing Twitter policies are going to run into that problem: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jul/10/twitter-faces-legal-challenge-after-failing-to-remove-reported-hate-tweets https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jul/10/twitter-f...
rsynnott 3y ago
Nazi propaganda and holocaust denial would be the main ones; many European countries ban that. This is generally fairly narrowly defined, though.

ndlan 3y ago

October, 2018: "In Europe, Speech Is an Alienable Right: [the European Court of Human Rights] upheld an Austrian woman’s conviction for disparaging the Prophet Muhammad." https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/its-not-free-speech-criticize-muhammad-echr-ruled/574174/ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/its-not-fr...

aftoprokrustes 3y ago
Without the need to agree or disagree with the ruling itself (which I cannot read about, as the article is behind a paywall, and I expect that the ruling is more nuanced than what the clickbait title suggests), the fact that a person was condemned for saying something for some reason (provocation to hate I would assume) does not mean that a mastodon server would be liable for relaying the information. Actually, politicians get condemned on a regular basis for diffamation or hate speech, but I never heard of any TV channel or newspaper being sued for having reported on the discourse of said politicians. I have to say that I expected a bit more, as you mentioned "most content on the internet".

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faiD9Eet 3y ago

In Germany you are not allowed to downplay, deny or condone the Holocaust. It is part of the criminal code. § 130 iii StGB https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stgb/__130.html https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stgb/__130.html > Mit Freiheitsstrafe bis zu fünf Jahren oder mit Geldstrafe wird bestraft, wer eine unter der Herrschaft des Nationalsozialismus begangene Handlung [...] öffentlich oder in einer Versammlung billigt, leugnet oder verharmlost.

mcv 3y ago

Extreme hate speech. In Germany, Nazi symbols and holocaust denial are illegal. I think Musk's new right-wing Twitter policies are going to run into that problem: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jul/10/twitter-faces-legal-challenge-after-failing-to-remove-reported-hate-tweets https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jul/10/twitter-f...

rsynnott 3y ago

Nazi propaganda and holocaust denial would be the main ones; many European countries ban that. This is generally fairly narrowly defined, though.