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Precisely part of the problem is that most instances are in Europe, which means that much of the speech you can find online is illegal, and if you aren't Facebo
by ndlan 3y ago
Precisely part of the problem is that most instances are in Europe, which means that much of the speech you can find online is illegal, and if you aren't Facebook you don't have the muscle to fight a politician or a judge who wants to make an example out of you.
- aftoprokrustes 3y agoI am genuinely curious: can you give examples of illegal content a EU based server would not be allowed to display/link to but a US based would?
- ndlan 3y agoOctober, 2018: "In Europe, Speech Is an Alienable Right: [the European Court of Human Rights] upheld an Austrian woman’s conviction for disparaging the Prophet Muhammad." https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/its-not-free-speech-criticize-muhammad-echr-ruled/574174/ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/its-not-fr...
- aftoprokrustes 3y agoWithout the need to agree or disagree with the ruling itself (which I cannot read about, as the article is behind a paywall, and I expect that the ruling is more nuanced than what the clickbait title suggests), the fact that a person was condemned for saying something for some reason (provocation to hate I would assume) does not mean that a mastodon server would be liable for relaying the information. Actually, politicians get condemned on a regular basis for diffamation or hate speech, but I never heard of any TV channel or newspaper being sued for having reported on the discourse of said politicians. I have to say that I expected a bit more, as you mentioned "most content on the internet".
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- faiD9Eet 3y agoIn Germany you are not allowed to downplay, deny or condone the Holocaust. It is part of the criminal code. § 130 iii StGB https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stgb/__130.html https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stgb/__130.html > Mit Freiheitsstrafe bis zu fünf Jahren oder mit Geldstrafe wird bestraft, wer eine unter der Herrschaft des Nationalsozialismus begangene Handlung [...] öffentlich oder in einer Versammlung billigt, leugnet oder verharmlost.
- mcv 3y agoExtreme hate speech. In Germany, Nazi symbols and holocaust denial are illegal. I think Musk's new right-wing Twitter policies are going to run into that problem: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jul/10/twitter-faces-legal-challenge-after-failing-to-remove-reported-hate-tweets https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jul/10/twitter-f...
- rsynnott 3y agoNazi propaganda and holocaust denial would be the main ones; many European countries ban that. This is generally fairly narrowly defined, though.