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The rules don't apply to russia. The russians rape. The russians torture. The russians mutilate. The russians mass-murder. The russians shoot small children a
by yakshaving_jgt 3y ago
The rules don't apply to russia.
The russians rape. The russians torture. The russians mutilate. The russians mass-murder.
The russians shoot small children at close range in the head.
The russians castrate prisoners of war.
The russians execute their own fighters with rifles or by crushing their skull with a sledgehammer.
The russians use chemical weapons.
The russians use cluster bombs.
The russians use white phosphorus.
The russians cause ecological disaster.
The russians threaten nuclear war.
The russians steal children.
The russians blow up schools.
The russians blow up hospitals.
The russians blow up power plants.
And so on, and so on.
And yet so many westerns will clutch their pearls when we give the Ukrainians the means to defend themselves.
- Torkel 3y agoSo, are they terrorists you say? Well, then. Classify them as such. => Any funding of them is now funding of terrorism. Including paying tax in Russia. Which means any and all companies doing business in and with Russia, and the individuals working in and for those companies now have to immediately stop, or else face jail... right? Seems like it could be super effective way of halting Russia? cf classification of Iranian's Revoutionary Guard as a terrorist org: https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2023/01/23/eu-faces-growing-calls-to-label-irans-revolutionary-guard-as-a-terrorist-group https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2023/01/23/eu-faces-growi...
- yakshaving_jgt 3y agoYes, the russians are absolutely terrorists, and should be classified as such. The European parliament have declared them as such, which is a start.
- Torkel 3y agoYeah - that seems to be about Russia being a state sponsor of terrorism (e.g. https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20221118IPR55707/european-parliament-declares-russia-to-be-a-state-sponsor-of-terrorism https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20221118IP...) But what I would like to see is a situation where companies paying tax to Russia are seen as sponsoring terrorism. It would have insane reprecussions?
- sam_lowry_ 3y agoLike AB InBev, Danone, Auchan, Leroy Merlin, Decathlon (last three owned by the same French family, mind you).
- Torkel 3y agoThe list is INSANELY long. Most multinationals seem to be operating on a "business as usual" principle in Russia. If they all risk jail time, things will be different. Also consider that any purchases of anything from Russia would now also be classified as sponsoring terrorism. So no more Gasprom gas :P
- karmakurtisaani 3y agoThe rationale of not allowing cluster bombs is NOT based on what the enemy is doing, but the effects on the cluster bombs after the war. I'm not saying they should not be given to Ukraine, but simply pointing out that you're arguing the wrong argument. Edit: I have seen good arguments for giving the bombs to Ukraine, and tend to agree with them. I.e., their use is rather localized at this point of the war.
- yakshaving_jgt 3y agoThe cluster munitions are going to be used against russian defensive positions on agricultural UKRAINIAN territory. It's entirely up to Ukraine what they do with their own land. And the options at this point are: 1. Remove russian terrorists with cluster munitions, with the potential for civilian casualties. 2. Allow russian terrorists to continue raping, torturing, and murdering civilians in Ukraine.
- azalemeth 3y agoThe other one I've heard -- no idea how true it is -- is that the DPCIM bomblets that are inside these munitions are shaped charge & frag dual purpose ammunition which would be really really appropriate to drop one by one from a drone.