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17 points by bdfh42 18y ago

justindz 18y ago
I'm a passionate under-consumer. I've recently made an attempt to better understand economics and I'm trying to tackle supply-side theory right now. I understand the Laffer Curve at a basic level, but one thing that seems to leap out at me is the idea that encouraging the supply of goods through subsidies that were not sufficiently encouraged by demand for those goods would lead to a situation necessitating "demand creation" (aka, marketing). It would seem healthier and more sustainable to me to focus on allowing people to determine their own demands more directly and let supply innovate on price and quality according to those demands, letting niche remain niche and letting expensive lifestyle wants remain as such. But this is all new to me. I've been poking around for a counter-argument to this, so I'd welcome any input.
- Retric 18y ago
  The problem with focusing on actual needs is they are cheep to satisfy. Food is a good example of this as there is little nutritional benefit to spending more than ~10$ / person / day at a grocery store. So to increase profits you to convince people to buy food with little nutritional value which produces over consumption (soda). Or you charge high prices for organic food which might provide some benefit. Or you go for the convenience of a microwave dinner. Finally, people buy apples based on what they can see not on how they taste so there is a disconnect between actual value and preceved value. Which is where advertising comes in you can't make a better tasting soda but you can convince people to pay extra for your brand of soda. PS: Notice how none of these have anything to do with the basic function of food.
fbbwsa 18y ago
this is phenomenal. i hate this blog in general, but this was a good post, and i think it aptly describes America's consumption problem. Americans consume for fun instead of necessity. The "shopping as an outlet for women" idea has never made sense to me. It seems to me that some people shop not even because they enjoy OWNING the items they buy, but because they enjoy BUYING the items they buy. Retail industry's dream come true.
grouchyOldGuy 18y ago
I think most people have a strong inner desire to consume. This desire leads not only to obesity, but to ever-increasing consumer debt as we purchase things to fill our lives. I don't know what drives this desire, but it exists. I struggle with it constantly. I am fat and have a house full of clutter--junk I "needed" to have. Sometimes I win and suppress the desire to consume, but all too often I succumb to it. No easy answer.

17 points by bdfh42 18y ago

I'm a passionate under-consumer. I've recently made an attempt to better understand economics and I'm trying to tackle supply-side theory right now. I understand the Laffer Curve at a basic level, but one thing that seems to leap out at me is the idea that encouraging the supply of goods through subsidies that were not sufficiently encouraged by demand for those goods would lead to a situation necessitating "demand creation" (aka, marketing). It would seem healthier and more sustainable to me to focus on allowing people to determine their own demands more directly and let supply innovate on price and quality according to those demands, letting niche remain niche and letting expensive lifestyle wants remain as such. But this is all new to me. I've been poking around for a counter-argument to this, so I'd welcome any input.

Retric 18y ago
The problem with focusing on actual needs is they are cheep to satisfy. Food is a good example of this as there is little nutritional benefit to spending more than ~10$ / person / day at a grocery store. So to increase profits you to convince people to buy food with little nutritional value which produces over consumption (soda). Or you charge high prices for organic food which might provide some benefit. Or you go for the convenience of a microwave dinner. Finally, people buy apples based on what they can see not on how they taste so there is a disconnect between actual value and preceved value. Which is where advertising comes in you can't make a better tasting soda but you can convince people to pay extra for your brand of soda. PS: Notice how none of these have anything to do with the basic function of food.

fbbwsa 18y ago

this is phenomenal. i hate this blog in general, but this was a good post, and i think it aptly describes America's consumption problem. Americans consume for fun instead of necessity. The "shopping as an outlet for women" idea has never made sense to me. It seems to me that some people shop not even because they enjoy OWNING the items they buy, but because they enjoy BUYING the items they buy. Retail industry's dream come true.

grouchyOldGuy 18y ago

I think most people have a strong inner desire to consume. This desire leads not only to obesity, but to ever-increasing consumer debt as we purchase things to fill our lives. I don't know what drives this desire, but it exists. I struggle with it constantly. I am fat and have a house full of clutter--junk I "needed" to have. Sometimes I win and suppress the desire to consume, but all too often I succumb to it. No easy answer.