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I bet that open models win in the end because porn. There is already very weird and vibrant community creating "waifus" and tinkering with these models.

KronisLV 3y ago
Huh, more power to those folks then, I guess. But I can easily imagine more conventional forms of entertainment, as well. Like a game of D&D that's narrated by the AI, or a text based adventure set in the Mass Effect universe, Lord of the Rings, Warhammer or any other fandom, really. Maybe like those old Choose Your Own Adventure games. I think some companies are also experimenting with characters in video games that get their dialogue from these models - where the developers give the character a persona, provide information about events in the world and let players interact with them, like the Detective Origins demo. Of course, due to the slightly unpredictable nature of these models and their hardware requirements, no idea how viable this will be.
- mahathu 3y ago
  The application in games I'm most excited about is commenters in FIFA career mode that don't have a limited set of prerecorded voice lines, and take your recent games, formation changes etc into account too, like real commentators would. The recent installments already do that to a small degree. Of course this would also easily open the doors to having multiple commentators/analysts to choose from, each with their individual "personalities". The technology for that is pretty much all already there right? A game like Fallout/Elder Scrolls with AI generated NPCs and questlines would be so sick too if executed well.
  - Al0neStar 3y ago
    Maybe for side quests but even that would be a debug hell.
  - hovering_nox 3y ago
    There is a mod for Skyrim where someone piped together multiple AI models. It goes like this: You speak into your microphone and ask a NPC something. This gets transcribed (voice to text) by Whisper AI. This transcript gets send to eg. GPT-4 with a pre-prompt engineered to give background, current information and the "personality" for the NPC you are talking to. The output of this gets piped back to a Text-to-Speech solution like eleven-labs with the original NPC voice.
    - hoseja 3y ago
      I've seen an example and the weakest link seemed to be the TTS, which sounded several generations behind.
- potatototoo99 3y ago
  Do you seriously think D&D and other choose your adventure games will be more popular than porn? Seriously?
  - DeathArrow 3y ago
    If they also include porn, maybe.
  - immibis 3y ago
    Did you try AI Dungeon before OpenAI killed it? Yes, people used it for porn.
- immibis 3y ago
  You are describing AI Dungeon, a third-party product using GPT-3 that OpenAI killed about two years ago.
hoseja 3y ago
The (even pre-emptive!) opposition and censorship seems way stronger this time around than with previous technologies. Like instead of ignoring the porn (or even profiting from it), they are trying very hard to make it impossible.
DeathArrow 3y ago
Porn will save the world again!
yyyk 3y ago
Perhaps this could happen to make Stable Diffusion win against Midjourney/Adobe. LLMs however have more than enough commercial support to overcome weird communities, and these communities care less about text than images.
rurp 3y ago
Porn could definitely be a killer app for LLMs, and I strongly hope that open source models win out for a number of reasons, but I'm not sure it will happen. Microsoft and OpenAI have quickly gone to great lengths to try and limit the amount of output they find offensive, and those efforts have been fairly well received by the general public. Despite the size of the regular online porn industry, it still gets strangled by payment processors. There is plenty of appetite out there for restricting porn in various ways.
- stOneskull 3y ago
  > Microsoft and OpenAI have quickly gone to great lengths to try and limit the amount of output they find offensive, and those efforts have been fairly well received by the general public. it offends me. i think many find this neutering annoying. and many more will. i think bing chat is fine this way, and for the general public, but if i'm paying to access the gpt api, there should be an uncensored version. i'm an adult. i can handle 'offensive' things. it's offensive telling me i'm not allowed to see 'offensive' things.

KronisLV 3y ago

Huh, more power to those folks then, I guess. But I can easily imagine more conventional forms of entertainment, as well. Like a game of D&D that's narrated by the AI, or a text based adventure set in the Mass Effect universe, Lord of the Rings, Warhammer or any other fandom, really. Maybe like those old Choose Your Own Adventure games. I think some companies are also experimenting with characters in video games that get their dialogue from these models - where the developers give the character a persona, provide information about events in the world and let players interact with them, like the Detective Origins demo. Of course, due to the slightly unpredictable nature of these models and their hardware requirements, no idea how viable this will be.

mahathu 3y ago
The application in games I'm most excited about is commenters in FIFA career mode that don't have a limited set of prerecorded voice lines, and take your recent games, formation changes etc into account too, like real commentators would. The recent installments already do that to a small degree. Of course this would also easily open the doors to having multiple commentators/analysts to choose from, each with their individual "personalities". The technology for that is pretty much all already there right? A game like Fallout/Elder Scrolls with AI generated NPCs and questlines would be so sick too if executed well.
- Al0neStar 3y ago
  Maybe for side quests but even that would be a debug hell.
- hovering_nox 3y ago
  There is a mod for Skyrim where someone piped together multiple AI models. It goes like this: You speak into your microphone and ask a NPC something. This gets transcribed (voice to text) by Whisper AI. This transcript gets send to eg. GPT-4 with a pre-prompt engineered to give background, current information and the "personality" for the NPC you are talking to. The output of this gets piped back to a Text-to-Speech solution like eleven-labs with the original NPC voice.
  - hoseja 3y ago
    I've seen an example and the weakest link seemed to be the TTS, which sounded several generations behind.
potatototoo99 3y ago
Do you seriously think D&D and other choose your adventure games will be more popular than porn? Seriously?
- DeathArrow 3y ago
  If they also include porn, maybe.
- immibis 3y ago
  Did you try AI Dungeon before OpenAI killed it? Yes, people used it for porn.
immibis 3y ago
You are describing AI Dungeon, a third-party product using GPT-3 that OpenAI killed about two years ago.

hoseja 3y ago

The (even pre-emptive!) opposition and censorship seems way stronger this time around than with previous technologies. Like instead of ignoring the porn (or even profiting from it), they are trying very hard to make it impossible.

DeathArrow 3y ago

Porn will save the world again!

yyyk 3y ago

Perhaps this could happen to make Stable Diffusion win against Midjourney/Adobe. LLMs however have more than enough commercial support to overcome weird communities, and these communities care less about text than images.

rurp 3y ago

Porn could definitely be a killer app for LLMs, and I strongly hope that open source models win out for a number of reasons, but I'm not sure it will happen. Microsoft and OpenAI have quickly gone to great lengths to try and limit the amount of output they find offensive, and those efforts have been fairly well received by the general public. Despite the size of the regular online porn industry, it still gets strangled by payment processors. There is plenty of appetite out there for restricting porn in various ways.

stOneskull 3y ago
> Microsoft and OpenAI have quickly gone to great lengths to try and limit the amount of output they find offensive, and those efforts have been fairly well received by the general public. it offends me. i think many find this neutering annoying. and many more will. i think bing chat is fine this way, and for the general public, but if i'm paying to access the gpt api, there should be an uncensored version. i'm an adult. i can handle 'offensive' things. it's offensive telling me i'm not allowed to see 'offensive' things.