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Stop listening to artists who don’t make music available as downloads? Not to mention the resurgence of vinyl (not that I have any interest in that personally)
by masklinn 3y ago
Stop listening to artists who don’t make music available as downloads?
Not to mention the resurgence of vinyl (not that I have any interest in that personally).
- tourmalinetaco 3y agoEven better, skip streaming services entirely and own your music. This directly puts your money where you want it, as physical media sales increase while streaming revenue decreases.
- masklinn 3y agoStreaming services can be nice to discover new artists, or get reminded of artists who dropped off of your radar.
- ShadowBanThis01 3y agoYep, discovery is really the primary point. It's hard to discover new music now otherwise.
- capableweb 3y agoThis is what I do. Use Spotify and YouTube Music (but mostly Spotify) for discovery, keeping up with releases and previewing music, while actual listening happens locally with files purchased from Bandcamp et al. Artists that don't sell their music in this way tends to get a skip.
- throwaway290 3y agoI am friends with a music band and they told me that Bandcamp is scammy and takes insane fees on digital music sold. I was surprised because I like Bandcamp as listener and thought I support musicians directly They insisted that "80% to the artist" is a lie and those special Friday promos are somehow even worse. However they said they get almost all money from physical goods sales on Bandcamp so merch is a good way to support them. Any professional artist (aka music sales is your income) can confirm?
- tourmalinetaco 3y agoInteresting to know, thank you! Do your friends use any other service, say iTunes, to sell their music, and can compare between the two? And I’d be interested in a link to their Bandcamp if possible!
- user_7832 3y agoNot the person you replied to, but apparently Deezer is waaay nicer with paying out artists than Spotify/Apple music. It's apparently due to how revenue is distributed (paying per total minutes played vs share of user-minutes or something, I'm not very clear.) Essentially with Spotify the vrey popular Tailor Swifts get a much nicer payment whereas if you listen exclusively to indie artists on Deezer they actually see more of your money. Fun fact, Deezer started off as a piracy website that grew big enough to turn legitimate when sued :)
- throwaway290 3y agoSince you mention "per minutes played", not sure it compares with Bandcamp... If you like to buy HQ files instead paying for streaming. Could be that Bandcamp is ripe to be disrupted by someone more friendly to artists. Edit: good to know, I'll have to take a look at it.
- tourmalinetaco 3y agoDeezer offers both a way to purchase and a way to stream music. They have a monthly subscription plan to stream their catalog alongside the ability to purchase outright and download in standard formats.
- tourmalinetaco 3y agoDeezer has definitely caught my eye in the past! Them paying artists better is an even sweeter deal. And I love piracy-turned-legitimacy stories. For instance, Crunchyroll, originally an anime piracy streaming site, turned legit and eventually overtook a monolith in the US anime industry with Funimation. Funimation and Crunchyroll were both bought by Sony, and Funimation’s brand identity was deemed weaker (something unthinkable back during their 90s/00s peak) and had everything renamed to Crunchyroll. Unfortunately though I can’t recommend Crunchyroll, as last I was aware they heavily underpaid their subtitler staff.
- zirgs 3y agoI don't want to own most of the music that I listen to. If I wanted to buy all the stuff that's in my spotify "liked songs" playlist - it would cost me thousands of euros. Until relatively recently you could only buy whole albums not single songs. I don't want to buy the whole album if it only contains 1 or 2 songs that I actually like.
- masklinn 3y ago> Until relatively recently you could only buy whole albums not single songs. Uh? Singles have always been a thing, and most if not all digital platforms allow buying by the track. You’d need a very specific artist demand to avoid this unbundling.
- tourmalinetaco 3y agoIn fact, singles were the original way to buy music. 78rpm records could only hold up to 5min or so of audio after all.
- zirgs 3y agoNot all songs are released as singles, and it's silly to buy a CD with only one song in it. So people just sailed the high seas.
- capableweb 3y agoMaybe my "liked" playlist is not too big in Spotify, but if I paid $4 for each song, that'd be ~$2400, not at all unreasonable considering that's songs collected since 2015 (so 75 songs per year or ~$300 per year). Of course, it's OK not to want to own the music you listen to. Personally, after 8 years of trying to use Spotify (and lately YouTube Music), the amount of graveyard playlists I now "posses" made it so I basically had to revert to buying music again as I want to be able to listen to the playlists I create years in the future too. Quick look (~20% of my total playlists), around 10% of my playlists contain more than half songs that are no longer available. That's just unacceptable in my personal case.
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- MikusR 3y agoBut its expensive. Bob Dylan songs alone is 300 million $.
- Angostura 3y agoI don't think vinyl supports Dolby Atmos yet.
- School-Cotton 3y agoA lot of vinyl comes with a download code included at no extra charge.
- drumttocs8 3y agoThe only person who loses in that scenario is the person boycotting. The artist will still have fans, the label will still get paid, but you will miss out on the art. I would argue the only option is to acquire and store the music using technology not officially supported by the industry (stream downloaders, then torrents, etc)