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Interesting on a meta point that the more clickbaity title "GPT-4 details leaked" won out over the more dispassionate but drier "GPT-4 Architecture, Infrastruct

Interesting on a meta point that the more clickbaity title "GPT-4 details leaked" won out over the more dispassionate but drier "GPT-4 Architecture, Infrastructure, Training Dataset, Costs".

behnamoh 3y ago
Clickbait has its time and place. Despite my hatred towards it, sometimes it's really needed.
- H8crilA 3y ago
  It is needed if you want people to click on your content more.
- swyx 3y ago
  is it needed when you pay for the blogpost and then immediately chargeback the card like this dude did? https://twitter.com/untitled01ipynb/status/1678655012015071232 https://twitter.com/untitled01ipynb/status/16786550120150712... what a colossal asshole
  - KaoruAoiShiho 3y ago
    Why is it not okay to summarize? It's clearly transformative and not a copyright violation. Yes asshole but he should be in the clear legally.
nicpottier 3y ago
To be fair the latter has the meat of it behind a paywall.
Aachen 3y ago
When choosing titles for my own submissions, yeah, the accurate title that HN says they desire gets no votes whatsoever. Any clickbait on here, people bring upon themselves (and this isn't even a clickbait-level title)
- delusional 3y ago
  I don't want accurate titles because they'll make me vote for it. I want accurate titles because it helps me determine if I'll read it BEFORE clicking it. The whole point of accurate titles is that you'll get less votes on uninteresting content.
  - Aachen 3y ago
    But if the title requires you to click, and then you find out it's uninteresting, why'd you upvote at that point? It shouldn't get your vote at all then, having wasted your time
idopmstuff 3y ago
I think in this case it's a better title in terms of highlighting the relevant info. What's really interesting is the source - these are important details that actually came from within OpenAI. Because the latter title emphasizes the type of info but not where it came from, I'd probably assume that's a blog post with some industry expert speculating about those things.

Interesting on a meta point that the more clickbaity title "GPT-4 details leaked" won out over the more dispassionate but drier "GPT-4 Architecture, Infrastructure, Training Dataset, Costs".

behnamoh 3y ago

Clickbait has its time and place. Despite my hatred towards it, sometimes it's really needed.

H8crilA 3y ago
It is needed if you want people to click on your content more.
swyx 3y ago
is it needed when you pay for the blogpost and then immediately chargeback the card like this dude did? https://twitter.com/untitled01ipynb/status/1678655012015071232 https://twitter.com/untitled01ipynb/status/16786550120150712... what a colossal asshole
- KaoruAoiShiho 3y ago
  Why is it not okay to summarize? It's clearly transformative and not a copyright violation. Yes asshole but he should be in the clear legally.

nicpottier 3y ago

To be fair the latter has the meat of it behind a paywall.

Aachen 3y ago

When choosing titles for my own submissions, yeah, the accurate title that HN says they desire gets no votes whatsoever. Any clickbait on here, people bring upon themselves (and this isn't even a clickbait-level title)

delusional 3y ago
I don't want accurate titles because they'll make me vote for it. I want accurate titles because it helps me determine if I'll read it BEFORE clicking it. The whole point of accurate titles is that you'll get less votes on uninteresting content.
- Aachen 3y ago
  But if the title requires you to click, and then you find out it's uninteresting, why'd you upvote at that point? It shouldn't get your vote at all then, having wasted your time

idopmstuff 3y ago

I think in this case it's a better title in terms of highlighting the relevant info. What's really interesting is the source - these are important details that actually came from within OpenAI. Because the latter title emphasizes the type of info but not where it came from, I'd probably assume that's a blog post with some industry expert speculating about those things.