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some creators never left, some came back. (even before twtr started going downhill.) whatever idea of the state of tumblr that is, it's probably not really refl

by pxoe 3y ago

some creators never left, some came back. (even before twtr started going downhill.) whatever idea of the state of tumblr that is, it's probably not really reflective of the state of it now. believe it or not, art does not revolve exclusively around porn. bizarrely, tumblr now somehow turns out to be one of more stable platforms for art. well, if your idea of art isn't just that it's porn. (and the sentiments like this, that almost equate those things, kinda make me appreciate them shedding the pornhub audience, in favor of fandom audience and art audience. like, legitimately, if all they lost is people like this, who think of art and creators in terms of what porn they're posting - good riddance.)

jchw 3y ago
> believe it or not, art does not revolve exclusively around porn. Sorry, but you're missing the point. The problem isn't that all art is porn. It's that all porn is art. A drawing or a photograph is not magically less of a creative endeavor because there's a dick in it, or two people fucking. It does create some complications for cultural or other human reasons, but it changes squat about the actual creative input. It sparks emotions, and why anyone ever thought appealing to the emotion of lust was any less valid than any other emotion is confusing as hell to me. Constraints and limitations sometimes breed a level of creativity, but when you just suddenly limit expression to the degree that Tumblr did, it's a smack in the face to artists, even ones that do not necessarily produce pornography at all. I know they had their reasons, but still. Of course, you can still have an art community with no porn. Obviously. But what they did was cut off a lot of people's existing avenues for expressing things, and that is not something that people tend to take lightly. It feels very personal.
ClumsyPilot 3y ago
i am not sure if you've met artist, bur like lnisity in art is a big deal. You learn to draw a human body naked. You learn how to draw muscles correctly, each of them, then you add clothes. And the rancid algorythm would shadowban people for like a drawing of an elf showing a boob. You didnt need to share hardcore porn to get banned.

by pxoe 3y ago

jchw 3y ago

> believe it or not, art does not revolve exclusively around porn. Sorry, but you're missing the point. The problem isn't that all art is porn. It's that all porn is art. A drawing or a photograph is not magically less of a creative endeavor because there's a dick in it, or two people fucking. It does create some complications for cultural or other human reasons, but it changes squat about the actual creative input. It sparks emotions, and why anyone ever thought appealing to the emotion of lust was any less valid than any other emotion is confusing as hell to me. Constraints and limitations sometimes breed a level of creativity, but when you just suddenly limit expression to the degree that Tumblr did, it's a smack in the face to artists, even ones that do not necessarily produce pornography at all. I know they had their reasons, but still. Of course, you can still have an art community with no porn. Obviously. But what they did was cut off a lot of people's existing avenues for expressing things, and that is not something that people tend to take lightly. It feels very personal.

ClumsyPilot 3y ago

i am not sure if you've met artist, bur like lnisity in art is a big deal. You learn to draw a human body naked. You learn how to draw muscles correctly, each of them, then you add clothes. And the rancid algorythm would shadowban people for like a drawing of an elf showing a boob. You didnt need to share hardcore porn to get banned.