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This is probably a big part of why people don’t generally opt out of iOS upgrades: they’re basically just annual app upgrades packaged together (notwithstanding

This is probably a big part of why people don’t generally opt out of iOS upgrades: they’re basically just annual app upgrades packaged together (notwithstanding some pretty conspicuous Safari updates in recent point releases), anything OS level is mostly iteration on a mostly stable core and has been for almost a decade. I do think they could and should be more aggressive with security updates. Both by releasing/messaging those separately from other kinds of point releases (improving but not great), and by notifying sooner/more frequently. It definitely irks me when I find out about a critical security patch over a week after it was available, and that the security content is a secondary link with no immediate conveyance of its urgency. And they should also make it a lot more obvious how to go find out if an update is even available in the first place. Even today(?)’s rapid response, I had to read about it on some site and then remember the incantation to go look to see if the update was available. Of course it was, so I tapped download and install. After waiting a while, I switched to another thing. When I came back, it was downloaded and ready and waiting for another affirmative to do the thing I already requested. I should not need to do any of this when I have automatic updates on.

alwillis 3y ago
> I do think they could and should be more aggressive with security updates. Both by releasing/messaging those separately from other kinds of point releases (improving but not great), and by notifying sooner/more frequently. Normies usually have their updates set to automatic, so they get the updates a soon as they're out. I count over 9 security updates for iOS 16 [1] as of July 10th, with the rest of the year to go. I feel like as soon as any type of update is released by Apple, I'm inundated with the news from many websites, RSS feeds and the PGP-signed email from Apple with the news [2] [3]. [1]: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222 [2]: security-announce@lists.apple.com [3]: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201214 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201214
- lostapathy 3y ago
  > Normies usually have their updates set to automatic, so they get the updates a soon as they're out. I have my iPhone and iPad both set to automatic updates, as are some others in the family. I have noticed several times when my iPad will get an update and then a couple weeks later I'll be on another family member's iPad and notice it still hasn't done the update yet.
  - alwillis 3y ago
    You can use a Mac to cache system updates for a local or home network [1]. That way, your devices will pull from the cache instead. [1]: https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/set-up-content-caching-on-mac-mchl3b6c3720/mac https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/set-up-content-cach...
- tourmalinetaco 3y ago
  Have automatic updates on, and very frequently my iPhone will skip updating despite having left the phone plugged in and connected to the Internet overnight. I check it in the morning and it will say “failed to install update”. Then I’ll have to fight it for the next 5 minutes to get it to actually begin the download.

alwillis 3y ago

> I do think they could and should be more aggressive with security updates. Both by releasing/messaging those separately from other kinds of point releases (improving but not great), and by notifying sooner/more frequently. Normies usually have their updates set to automatic, so they get the updates a soon as they're out. I count over 9 security updates for iOS 16 [1] as of July 10th, with the rest of the year to go. I feel like as soon as any type of update is released by Apple, I'm inundated with the news from many websites, RSS feeds and the PGP-signed email from Apple with the news [2] [3]. [1]: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222 [2]: security-announce@lists.apple.com [3]: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201214 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201214

lostapathy 3y ago
> Normies usually have their updates set to automatic, so they get the updates a soon as they're out. I have my iPhone and iPad both set to automatic updates, as are some others in the family. I have noticed several times when my iPad will get an update and then a couple weeks later I'll be on another family member's iPad and notice it still hasn't done the update yet.
- alwillis 3y ago
  You can use a Mac to cache system updates for a local or home network [1]. That way, your devices will pull from the cache instead. [1]: https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/set-up-content-caching-on-mac-mchl3b6c3720/mac https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/set-up-content-cach...
tourmalinetaco 3y ago
Have automatic updates on, and very frequently my iPhone will skip updating despite having left the phone plugged in and connected to the Internet overnight. I check it in the morning and it will say “failed to install update”. Then I’ll have to fight it for the next 5 minutes to get it to actually begin the download.