Which is what’s great about these languages - best of both worlds. I also think this discussion shouldn’t be about languages at all, you can have objects of so

Which is what’s great about these languages - best of both worlds. I also think this discussion shouldn’t be about languages at all, you can have objects of some form in any imperative language including C. It’s more about what design patterns make sense for specific problems, and sometimes the answer is OO-style (eg with class hierarchies) and sometimes not.