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FreeShip Plus in Lazarus – An open-source software for boat and hull design

132 points by app4soft 3y ago

starkparker 3y ago
If you want to see someone go from zero to building out a small plywood boat using FREE!Ship to design the plans, see https://www.armylakeboatco.com/ https://www.armylakeboatco.com/ and their YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@armylakeboatco https://www.youtube.com/@armylakeboatco. If you're looking for community, see the boatdesign.net forums: https://www.boatdesign.net/forums/boat-design/ https://www.boatdesign.net/forums/boat-design/ or r/boatbuilding. DELFTship is the commercial successor, but it's daunting: https://www.delftship.net/ https://www.delftship.net/
- themerone 3y ago
  Chesapeake Light Craft is a great source for supplies and ready to build kits: https://clcboats.com https://clcboats.com
- app4soft 3y ago
  > DELFTship is the commercial successor, but it's daunting Author of DELFTship is an author of original opensource FREE!ship in Delphi. But after FREE!ship v2.60 project was abandoned on SourceForge.[0] Then FREE!ship was forked and extended into FREE!ship Plus[1] by Associate Prof. Victor Timoshenko[2] (National Univerisity of Shipbuilding, Mykolaiv, Ukraine). FREE!ship Plus v3.50 was the last release of extended fork in Delphi, and it also got a lot of closed source freeware plugins.[3] Since 2015 FREE!ship Plus was forked into FreeShip Plus in Lazarus by Mark Malakanov, initially it was planned as a port for Linux[4]. Project is active on GitHub. Also, there was the ShipCAD — a try by Greg Green to rewrite original FREE!ship to C++/Qt, but it was unfinished and abandoned.[5] [0] https://sourceforge.net/p/freeship https://sourceforge.net/p/freeship [1] http://web.archive.org/web/20160927052330/http://www.hydronship.net/index.php?lang=en http://web.archive.org/web/20160927052330/http://www.hydrons... [2] https://linkedin.com/victor-timoshenko-33a053a https://linkedin.com/victor-timoshenko-33a053a [3] http://web.archive.org/web/20160927062856/http://www.hydronship.net/programs.htm http://web.archive.org/web/20160927062856/http://www.hydrons... [4] http://web.archive.org/web/20160822054832/http://hydronship.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=1 http://web.archive.org/web/20160822054832/http://hydronship.... [5] https://github.com/gpgreen/ShipCAD https://github.com/gpgreen/ShipCAD
  - bcardarella 3y ago
    Any change of getting a non-Windows build? I have no idea but I would imagine the % of HN readers that or on MacOS or Linux is high.
    - app4soft 3y ago
      Yes, FreeShip Plus in Lazarus already packaged for Linux (see DEB-packages in releases assets).[0] [0] https://github.com/markmal/freeship-plus-in-lazarus/releases/tag/5.0.36.490 https://github.com/markmal/freeship-plus-in-lazarus/releases...
  - detourdog 3y ago
    Does anyone know of how this compares to Hullform? I have the source for 9.12 that I keep meaning to try to get going.
    - app4soft 3y ago
      > I have the source for 9.12 Source code of Hullform?
      - detourdog 3y ago
        yes, I was doing a lot of research in this are 18 or so months ago and I stumbled on it and downloaded it. I don’t have windows so I haven’t done anything with it yet. My memory is that it is very early lofting software and has a reputation for being a close analog to the actual process. I have strange CAD ideas that are closer to lofting than using a mouse. My intention was to look through the source to find the “engine” and work around that.
        app4soft 3y ago
        > yes Hm, source (and binary) uploaded to GitHub this week, but not by original developer.[0] Code last touched on February 18, 2011.[1] On Softpedia there are its screenshots.[2] > I don’t have windows so I haven’t done anything with it yet. Use Wine to launch Windows sotware under Linux.[3] But, as for me, FREE!ship is the better and more advanced than Hullform. [0] https://github.com/jesshaas/hullform https://github.com/jesshaas/hullform [1] https://github.com/jesshaas/hullform/blob/main/Final%20Release/hullform_source.zip https://github.com/jesshaas/hullform/blob/main/Final%20Relea... [2] https://www.softpedia.com/get/Science-CAD/Hullform.html https://www.softpedia.com/get/Science-CAD/Hullform.html [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)
- moffkalast 3y ago
  The best part about Delftship is the library of hulls one can just grab a starting shell from and continue working on it in some other modeling software that isn't a complete pain to work with :P
randomdrake 3y ago
Sounded like a neat project but seemed light on documentation. Had to go back to 2015 in the Internet Archive[0] to actually find a copy of the website mentioned. The site is in Russian but Google Translate seems to do an okay job of bringing it into English[1]. [0] - https://web.archive.org/web/20150223174714/http://www.hydronship.net/ https://web.archive.org/web/20150223174714/http://www.hydron... [1] - https://web-archive-org.translate.goog/web/20150223174714/http://www.hydronship.net/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://web-archive-org.translate.goog/web/20150223174714/ht...
- app4soft 3y ago
  > The site is in Russian The site was in Russian and English, but it was a site of Ukrainian maintainer of FREE!ship Plus, see details and link to page in English in my previous comment.[0] [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36670328#36671965 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36670328#36671965
whatscooking 3y ago
Oceangate definitely did not use
teruakohatu 3y ago
I found some screenshots of the output of the application here: https://www.boatdesign.net/threads/freeship-plus-in-lazarus-v-5-0-30-422.63965/ https://www.boatdesign.net/threads/freeship-plus-in-lazarus-...
biomcgary 3y ago
I just finished building two small boats (1 sheet of plywood each, plus odds and ends) with my preteen sons using a VERY simple plan. Only 3-4 hours of work, plus drying time. I'll check this out when we're ready to upgrade.
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Solvency 3y ago
No screenshots. Of course.
deaddodo 3y ago
Pascal was the systems language that I cut my teeth in when I was a mere thirteen year old struggling to wrap my head around the intricacies of C/C++. For that, it'll always have a special place in my heart and I always get a fuzzy feeling seeing real applications built in it.
- blablabla123 3y ago
  Similar for me, Delphi 2.0/3.0 was the first time I built something where I thought that looks like normal software. (Getting a hello world running in C++ at the time seemed like a menial task.)

132 points by app4soft 3y ago

If you want to see someone go from zero to building out a small plywood boat using FREE!Ship to design the plans, see https://www.armylakeboatco.com/ https://www.armylakeboatco.com/ and their YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@armylakeboatco https://www.youtube.com/@armylakeboatco. If you're looking for community, see the boatdesign.net forums: https://www.boatdesign.net/forums/boat-design/ https://www.boatdesign.net/forums/boat-design/ or r/boatbuilding. DELFTship is the commercial successor, but it's daunting: https://www.delftship.net/ https://www.delftship.net/

themerone 3y ago
Chesapeake Light Craft is a great source for supplies and ready to build kits: https://clcboats.com https://clcboats.com
app4soft 3y ago
> DELFTship is the commercial successor, but it's daunting Author of DELFTship is an author of original opensource FREE!ship in Delphi. But after FREE!ship v2.60 project was abandoned on SourceForge.[0] Then FREE!ship was forked and extended into FREE!ship Plus[1] by Associate Prof. Victor Timoshenko[2] (National Univerisity of Shipbuilding, Mykolaiv, Ukraine). FREE!ship Plus v3.50 was the last release of extended fork in Delphi, and it also got a lot of closed source freeware plugins.[3] Since 2015 FREE!ship Plus was forked into FreeShip Plus in Lazarus by Mark Malakanov, initially it was planned as a port for Linux[4]. Project is active on GitHub. Also, there was the ShipCAD — a try by Greg Green to rewrite original FREE!ship to C++/Qt, but it was unfinished and abandoned.[5] [0] https://sourceforge.net/p/freeship https://sourceforge.net/p/freeship [1] http://web.archive.org/web/20160927052330/http://www.hydronship.net/index.php?lang=en http://web.archive.org/web/20160927052330/http://www.hydrons... [2] https://linkedin.com/victor-timoshenko-33a053a https://linkedin.com/victor-timoshenko-33a053a [3] http://web.archive.org/web/20160927062856/http://www.hydronship.net/programs.htm http://web.archive.org/web/20160927062856/http://www.hydrons... [4] http://web.archive.org/web/20160822054832/http://hydronship.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=1 http://web.archive.org/web/20160822054832/http://hydronship.... [5] https://github.com/gpgreen/ShipCAD https://github.com/gpgreen/ShipCAD
- bcardarella 3y ago
  Any change of getting a non-Windows build? I have no idea but I would imagine the % of HN readers that or on MacOS or Linux is high.
  - app4soft 3y ago
    Yes, FreeShip Plus in Lazarus already packaged for Linux (see DEB-packages in releases assets).[0] [0] https://github.com/markmal/freeship-plus-in-lazarus/releases/tag/5.0.36.490 https://github.com/markmal/freeship-plus-in-lazarus/releases...
- detourdog 3y ago
  Does anyone know of how this compares to Hullform? I have the source for 9.12 that I keep meaning to try to get going.
  - app4soft 3y ago
    > I have the source for 9.12 Source code of Hullform?
    - detourdog 3y ago
      yes, I was doing a lot of research in this are 18 or so months ago and I stumbled on it and downloaded it. I don’t have windows so I haven’t done anything with it yet. My memory is that it is very early lofting software and has a reputation for being a close analog to the actual process. I have strange CAD ideas that are closer to lofting than using a mouse. My intention was to look through the source to find the “engine” and work around that.
      - app4soft 3y ago
        > yes Hm, source (and binary) uploaded to GitHub this week, but not by original developer.[0] Code last touched on February 18, 2011.[1] On Softpedia there are its screenshots.[2] > I don’t have windows so I haven’t done anything with it yet. Use Wine to launch Windows sotware under Linux.[3] But, as for me, FREE!ship is the better and more advanced than Hullform. [0] https://github.com/jesshaas/hullform https://github.com/jesshaas/hullform [1] https://github.com/jesshaas/hullform/blob/main/Final%20Release/hullform_source.zip https://github.com/jesshaas/hullform/blob/main/Final%20Relea... [2] https://www.softpedia.com/get/Science-CAD/Hullform.html https://www.softpedia.com/get/Science-CAD/Hullform.html [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)
moffkalast 3y ago
The best part about Delftship is the library of hulls one can just grab a starting shell from and continue working on it in some other modeling software that isn't a complete pain to work with :P

randomdrake 3y ago

Sounded like a neat project but seemed light on documentation. Had to go back to 2015 in the Internet Archive[0] to actually find a copy of the website mentioned. The site is in Russian but Google Translate seems to do an okay job of bringing it into English[1]. [0] - https://web.archive.org/web/20150223174714/http://www.hydronship.net/ https://web.archive.org/web/20150223174714/http://www.hydron... [1] - https://web-archive-org.translate.goog/web/20150223174714/http://www.hydronship.net/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://web-archive-org.translate.goog/web/20150223174714/ht...

app4soft 3y ago
> The site is in Russian The site was in Russian and English, but it was a site of Ukrainian maintainer of FREE!ship Plus, see details and link to page in English in my previous comment.[0] [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36670328#36671965 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36670328#36671965

whatscooking 3y ago

Oceangate definitely did not use

teruakohatu 3y ago

I found some screenshots of the output of the application here: https://www.boatdesign.net/threads/freeship-plus-in-lazarus-v-5-0-30-422.63965/ https://www.boatdesign.net/threads/freeship-plus-in-lazarus-...

biomcgary 3y ago

I just finished building two small boats (1 sheet of plywood each, plus odds and ends) with my preteen sons using a VERY simple plan. Only 3-4 hours of work, plus drying time. I'll check this out when we're ready to upgrade.

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Solvency 3y ago

No screenshots. Of course.

deaddodo 3y ago

Pascal was the systems language that I cut my teeth in when I was a mere thirteen year old struggling to wrap my head around the intricacies of C/C++. For that, it'll always have a special place in my heart and I always get a fuzzy feeling seeing real applications built in it.

blablabla123 3y ago
Similar for me, Delphi 2.0/3.0 was the first time I built something where I thought that looks like normal software. (Getting a hello world running in C++ at the time seemed like a menial task.)