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The timing of this is hilarious: https://twitter.com/chatsidhartha/status/1649484240952721408 https://twitter.com/chatsidhartha/status/1649484240952721408 Orac

The timing of this is hilarious: https://twitter.com/chatsidhartha/status/1649484240952721408 https://twitter.com/chatsidhartha/status/1649484240952721408 Oracle just sent a legal threat to "Rust for Javascript" to remove "Javascript" from their name. (Oracle owns the "Javascript" trademark.)

aewens 3y ago
To play the devil's advocate: IANAL, but if I recall correctly part of having a trademark is having a legal obligation to enforce it, and if I'm reading the tweet correctly this is a name of a company and typically one cannot use a trademark in their company name.
- slimsag 3y ago
  (I am not a lawyer, I am speculating) Oracle can grant others the use of their trademark legally, right? There's no reason Oracle couldn't say this? > JavaScript is our trademark, you must either stop using it immediately OR <sign this online form here> to enter into an agreement with us that grants you the ability to use it, for as long as you please, no strings attached, no payment required.
  - JohnFen 3y ago
    > Oracle can grant others the use of their trademark legally, right? There's no reason Oracle couldn't say this? Correct, with certain limitation[1]. This fact is why saying "but we have to do this or lose our trademark" is a bit disingenuous. You do have to actively defend your trademark or lose it (because a trademark is not intended to benefit the company holding it, it's intended as a consumer protection measure). But "defending your trademark" doesn't mean you have to engage in a lawsuit. [1] The limitations are around the purpose of trademark as consumer protection measure. The idea is that consumers can rely on the trademark as a guarantee that a product or service is coming from who they think it's coming from. It's possible to be so liberal in licensing the use of your trademark out that it gets diluted enough to risk losing the registration.
shantnutiwari 3y ago
>>Oracle just sent a legal threat to "Rust for Javascript" to remove "Javascript" from their name. Bullshit. As a Reddit comment pointed out, they sent the legal notice because the person had Javascript in their Limited Company, not because they were selling a Javascript course. You can't create a Limited company violanting someone's trademark. And in fact there are dozens of Javascript courses online

aewens 3y ago

To play the devil's advocate: IANAL, but if I recall correctly part of having a trademark is having a legal obligation to enforce it, and if I'm reading the tweet correctly this is a name of a company and typically one cannot use a trademark in their company name.

slimsag 3y ago
(I am not a lawyer, I am speculating) Oracle can grant others the use of their trademark legally, right? There's no reason Oracle couldn't say this? > JavaScript is our trademark, you must either stop using it immediately OR <sign this online form here> to enter into an agreement with us that grants you the ability to use it, for as long as you please, no strings attached, no payment required.
- JohnFen 3y ago
  > Oracle can grant others the use of their trademark legally, right? There's no reason Oracle couldn't say this? Correct, with certain limitation[1]. This fact is why saying "but we have to do this or lose our trademark" is a bit disingenuous. You do have to actively defend your trademark or lose it (because a trademark is not intended to benefit the company holding it, it's intended as a consumer protection measure). But "defending your trademark" doesn't mean you have to engage in a lawsuit. [1] The limitations are around the purpose of trademark as consumer protection measure. The idea is that consumers can rely on the trademark as a guarantee that a product or service is coming from who they think it's coming from. It's possible to be so liberal in licensing the use of your trademark out that it gets diluted enough to risk losing the registration.

shantnutiwari 3y ago

>>Oracle just sent a legal threat to "Rust for Javascript" to remove "Javascript" from their name. Bullshit. As a Reddit comment pointed out, they sent the legal notice because the person had Javascript in their Limited Company, not because they were selling a Javascript course. You can't create a Limited company violanting someone's trademark. And in fact there are dozens of Javascript courses online