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You're wrong, concentrating on just STEM leads to media illiteracy. I would even say it's highly conductive in breeding bigotry. Studying the humanities is esse

by dreen 3y ago

You're wrong, concentrating on just STEM leads to media illiteracy. I would even say it's highly conductive in breeding bigotry. Studying the humanities is essential in understanding the human condition, as well as making sense of the mass of information and cultural heirtage everyone finds themselves in.

LatteLazy 3y ago
Careful: you have missed my point. I didn't say Humanities were worthless. I just said there are no provable results there. "Is X ethical?" - no one can prove it but we will discuss it as long as someone will pay us to. Since there are no firm truths, anyone can get a degree (or more) without actually gaining the skills you refer to. In fact actually gaining the skills you allude to makes someone LESS likely to get funded or famous. It is extremists filled with certainty who rule these subjects...
- posterboy 3y ago
  > Since there are no firm truths that's bullshit. Classic liar's paradox and the solution is that sentence is ungrammatical in a strong sense of universal grammar ... which I can't prove, and I'm not philosopher enough to concern myself with lists of formal fallacies to make up for it
- dreen 3y ago
  There absolutely are provable results, you make observations, conslusions, you must show how those are linked with logic. "Is X ethical" is just one of milions of possible questions in the class of sciences called humanities, of which ethics are just a small subset. However, when doing any research including interacting with live humans, you must understably prove ethical conduct.
  - LatteLazy 3y ago
    So is X ethical? Can you give me the cold hard proof that smoking is moral (or that it is not)? What about paying taxes that will be used to build hospitals but also to bomb people? Remember, not an opinion or an argument, a cold hard, proof no one can argue with.

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You're wrong, concentrating on just STEM leads to media illiteracy. I would even say it's highly conductive in breeding bigotry. Studying the humanities is esse

by dreen 3y ago

LatteLazy 3y ago
Careful: you have missed my point. I didn't say Humanities were worthless. I just said there are no provable results there. "Is X ethical?" - no one can prove it but we will discuss it as long as someone will pay us to. Since there are no firm truths, anyone can get a degree (or more) without actually gaining the skills you refer to. In fact actually gaining the skills you allude to makes someone LESS likely to get funded or famous. It is extremists filled with certainty who rule these subjects...
- posterboy 3y ago
  > Since there are no firm truths that's bullshit. Classic liar's paradox and the solution is that sentence is ungrammatical in a strong sense of universal grammar ... which I can't prove, and I'm not philosopher enough to concern myself with lists of formal fallacies to make up for it
- dreen 3y ago
  There absolutely are provable results, you make observations, conslusions, you must show how those are linked with logic. "Is X ethical" is just one of milions of possible questions in the class of sciences called humanities, of which ethics are just a small subset. However, when doing any research including interacting with live humans, you must understably prove ethical conduct.
  - LatteLazy 3y ago
    So is X ethical? Can you give me the cold hard proof that smoking is moral (or that it is not)? What about paying taxes that will be used to build hospitals but also to bomb people? Remember, not an opinion or an argument, a cold hard, proof no one can argue with.